Richard AshwellNov 15, 2024

UN climate talks 'no longer fit for purpose' say key experts

The United Nations' COP climate talks are "no longer fit for purpose" and need an urgent overhaul, key experts including a former UN secretary general and former UN #climate chief have said.

In a letter to the UN, senior figures say countries should not host the talks if they don’t support the phase out of fossil energy.

This week the Azerbaijani president told world leaders gathered in his country for #COP29 that natural gas was a “gift from God” and he shouldn’t be blamed for bringing it to market.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2lknel1xpo

#ClimateChange #COP29 #BoycottCOP29

COP29: UN climate talks 'no longer fit for purpose' say experts

Call for change comes after host country Azerbaijan's president calls oil and gas a "gift of God".

Show threadGondorNov 15, 2024

@RichardAshwell Apparently it sadly never really was. 😒

edit: Graphic changed to the same but from the original source NOAA

Show threadRichard Ashwell

@grootinside

Indeed. And, strangely, that graphic appears to come from that hotbed of #climate science deniers, the Global Warming Policy Foundation!

#ClimateChange #COP29 #BoycottCOP29

Nov 15, 2024 at 4:11pmWeb
Show threadGondorNov 15, 2024

@RichardAshwell Oh😬

Shit. Didn't know. So it's not correct?
Am just getting groceries. If it's not correct then i'll delete it right away.

Point still not wrong though.🤔

Show threadJonathanNov 15, 2024

@grootinside

https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/

Trends in CO2 - NOAA Global Monitoring Laboratory

GML conducts research on greenhouse gas and carbon cycle feedbacks, changes in aerosols, and surface radiation, and recovery of stratospheric ozone.

Show threadGondorNov 15, 2024
@jmcrookston
Just got back home.
Phew. Thanks for clearing this up for me.
So the facts are right, sadly.
Show threadRichard AshwellNov 15, 2024

@grootinside

I haven't checked the graph in detail, just a brief look, but, as a graph, it looks about right. The dates of the COPs have been superimposed on the Mauna Loa CO2 concentration measurements, I presume accurately.

The really odd thing is seeing the GWPF logo on it.

Where did you find it? I'm intrigued.

@jmcrookston

Show threadGondorNov 15, 2024
@RichardAshwell @jmcrookston Can't remember from where i saved it, definitely not from the gwpf site since i don't know who they are. (? Just googled them.) Most likely it's from a post here at fediverse(?). In case of climate most info i get is following links posted here.
As long as the datas are correct and their original source are reliable i "don't care" what logo is added.
Everything is so complicated. Are they usually a climate denier source and desinformation spreader or what?
😬
Show threadJonathanNov 15, 2024

@grootinside @RichardAshwell

Well the data might be correct and maybe they were misrepresenting that the climate talks don't do anything. Because hey look the graph is still headed up to the right. Something like that.

Show threadRichard AshwellNov 16, 2024

@grootinside

Probably the best I can do is refer you to their Wikipedia entry and you can judge for yourself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation

@jmcrookston

The Global Warming Policy Foundation - Wikipedia