Decentralised social media site Bluesky has gone down under the load of new users.

Not to worry, I'll just use one of the other decentralised instances. One of the many wonders of decentralisation.

... What do you mean, there aren't any?

... If a central server goes down, I can't get onto this oh-so-decentralised network?

I guess this must just be how decentralisation works!

I am, overall, glad to see Bluesky supercede X/Twitter (or even Threads).

It is probably better than Mastodon for politics, and that's how I spend a lot of my time. (Mastodon gets the posts about CSS and such.)

But Bluesky should stop pretending to be something it isn't.

Mastodon is decentralised. Bluesky is a Twitter clone with some extra steps. Dressing it up as a "protocol" does nothing when all the parts that matter are under the ownership of one company.

Look at this – so decentralised that they're getting outages caused by "one of our bandwidth providers got their fibre cable cut"

smh

https://bsky.app/profile/pfrazee.com/post/3lawxanne2c2d

Paul Frazee (@pfrazee.com)

Oh brother. We back? The outages aren't us. One of our bandwidth providers apparently got their fiber cable cut and has been on/off all day

Bluesky Social
@[email protected] so 'mastodsdon gets' you must be fucking kidding.

@tomw

when I joined Bluesky, they first "person" to follow me was a fake account.

is Bluesky where the media agencies are moving to?

@tomw BlueSky is not decentralized.

@tomw

I would argue less than 2% of Bluesky users care anything about decentralization.

Also at least here the site was never down, just slow for a few hours.

Cool story tho.

@WhyNotZoidberg I just wish they would give up the pretense. It's clearly centralised, as you say most users don't care, why misrepresent it?
@tomw The protocol supports decentralization.

@WhyNotZoidberg Where is it, then?

A veneer of theoretical support is worthless if there is zero implementation.

@tomw @WhyNotZoidberg

Fun fact, the Fediverse bridge Is basically the only thing that puts a veneer of credibility to BS' decentralization claims

https://wok.oblomov.eu/tecnologia/credible-threat-2/

A credible threat to (and from) commercial social network silos/2

The Fediverse, especially through Mastodon, has been acknowledged by the major players as a threat —to be eliminated.

wok
@tomw I mean, yes. In the same way that if Gmail were ever to go down you’d have a hard time sending email to many people. Decentralized systems tend over time to either centralize or stagnate, and usually both
@tomw (Although centralization protects against stagnation, and stagnation protects against centralization)
@kevinriggle It's more like if Gmail went down and then I found that no other email servers or apps actually exist, even though Gmail told me it uses the "decentralised email protocol"
@tomw I wonder how intrinsic that centralization is or if that's just something on their roadmap to fix
@vitriolix They have been promising to fix it real soon now since day one. But all of their incentives point the other way
@tomw For sure, hopefully community pressure can mount
@tomw Yes, they are not decentralized as in Mastodon's "everyone can have their own Mastodon on a home Raspberry Pi", they are decentralized in a way "You can keep your personal data on Raspberry Pi and if we as a network ever start enshittyfying, a competing company with some resources can steal our whole network"
@FifiSch that is only in theory, I don't know about you but I feel I've seen that before and don't really buy it without proof.

@FifiSch This is very theoretical and (by their own admission) incomplete. And their incentives point against completing it.

It's a bit like "if you can't test your backups then you have no backups".