Today is a good day to remember the time I told my Jewish grandmother, who had been an officer in the Red Army all through WWII, about the debate over punching Nazis.

"This is trick question," she said, narrowing her eyes. "When you are done punching, Nazi is still alive, yes?"

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Oh yeah, both the greatgrandmothers I talked to closely and especially the one who raised me (was making plane engines under Tupolev) were great at understanding that stuff. They truly, deeply Got It.
@Iris_IllEra @evacide 40 million dead on the eastern front, 19 million of which were Russian civilians, it's pretty easy to see why

@Iris_IllEra Including the people who had no alignment with either, but happened to live in the Bloodlands.

TBH, if the Soviet military had been run better, it could have cut the loss numbers at the very least to one half, perhaps even to one third, of the actual death count. The massive losses are, to a significant dagree, because Stalin was afraid of generals who could strategise too well, and (to a lesser degree) surviving veterans with front line experience.

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@riley @sortius @evacide
1. I don't think it would have been possible to cut deaths below civilian deaths (almost half) by reforming the army. Because of the definition of civilian.
2. History does not know of the word 'if'.