neatcheeOct 30, 2024

If an employer ever asks you to resign, tell them "no".

There is no benefit to resigning unless you have another job lined up already.

Make them fire you. Get your unemployment benefits. Make sure you are legally protected in case of malfeasance. Resigning undermines all of that.

This message brought to you by AWS telling workers to return to office 5-days-a-week by commuting or relocating, or they should resign.

Again, the answer is "no, you'll have to fire me."

EDIT: To clarify, in most areas "fired" and "let go" are not legally meaningful terms and can be used interchangeably. The important term is "for cause" or not. So don't commit misconduct to get fired. Poor job performance is typically not a "for cause" reason, nor is failure to accept changes like RTO

Show threadYaoi Box BalloonOct 30, 2024

@neatchee This is the rule in most EU countries. If you resign yourself, you're on your own for at least a couple months. If you're fired, you're still financially ok, even if it is entirely your fault.

I suspect maybe something similar across the Anglosphere? No expert but only suspect.

Show threadneatcheeOct 31, 2024
@monsoonrains in the US you're definitely not financially okay if fired, but you do get certain protections, like unemployment benefits (unless fired for misconduct). There are also some cases where you can resign and still qualify if you can effectively show that you were forced to resign to avoid worse consequences (harassment, etc)
Show threadSirena the Miqo’teOct 31, 2024

@neatchee @monsoonrains I remember back when I was much younger, our manager gradually worked her way through firing us all to bring in her own people, but had first cut our hours back. The unemployment benefits ended up being more than my regular pay had been recently.

And yeah she REALLY wanted me to quit. But I'm very stubborn.

Show threadSirena the Miqo’te

@neatchee @monsoonrains "You can quit now, or I'll fire you later, but you aren't going to make it through the Summer. "

"Okay, well I'll keep at it"

Oct 31, 2024 at 12:36amWeb
Show threadYaoi Box BalloonOct 31, 2024

@aceattveg @neatchee Damn fucking straight.

Milk it. Moo.

Show threadTexan TallyNov 3, 2024

@monsoonrains @neatchee @aceattveg In my head I'd probably have that famous boxing announcer going "Let's get ready to rumble!"
Or more quietly, I'd probably be blinking with a barely there smile on my face going "challenge accepted" in my head. When you know someone wants you out but can't do anything about it yet, it does seem to kinda give you that burst of XP to keep fighting, doesn't it? it's just the principle of the thing. But this is good to remember.

If you resign, all unemployment agencies will tell you down here (Texas) is "get your job back." Their job is to ensure you avoid having to collect unemployment in the first place, and when they can't prevent that, they make you apply like crazy for jobs and basically take the first one willing to have you. I used to substitute teach and when I told them that, they were like "apply to school districts around here as a sub. Better than nothing." But I would only be able to do 2 days a week because of the distance to my stable tutoring job & it would end come summer and I'd be in the same position, I needed something that would be steady and let me pay the bills. They didn't care, so I went off on my own. A month later, I got a fast-food job at least that worked with my schedule.