Road_Warrior_10Switching back to Firefox
Gradually_AdjustingYou mean Librewolf, of course.
🇦🇺𝕄𝕦𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕕𝕔𝕣𝕠𝕔𝕠𝕕𝕚𝕝𝕖Hey let’s not force the guy to move again privacy comes one step at a time.
This tbh. I know Mozilla has been up to some questionable things lately but I only just got a bunch of my friends to finally ditch Chrome.
troedThere is no Librewolf without Firefox.
There is no Firefox without people’s desire for privacy. There is no sufficient privacy without people removing the diseased fingerprint of multiple big companies.
There is no possibility of a big browser surviving, without caving to big companies, in the artificially hostile web created by Google’s monopoly.
And that last one is fundamentally unfair, beyond any accusation of “Derivative!” anyone can make.
I actually switched back to Firefox (from chrome) about 5 or 6 years ago because I liked the interface more. And I still like the Firefox design decisions more than what chrome is doing.
Privacy is nice too but people come to Firefox for lots of reasons.
Didn’t Firefox sell to Google recently or something like that?
They get sponsored to be the default search engine. Firefox developers cost money and being non-profit relies on dontations and sponsorship
TrickDacyOf course not.
cosmicrookieYou might want to keep looking for better friends. Firefox recently got busted tracking users without their consent
DasnapWell, when there’s only really 2 friends available, and the other options are just those guys in different hats…
That’s the definition of browser monopoly
Yeah it’s a pretty shite situation all around. Will be interesting to follow the US DOJ ruling on the split-up of Google.
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You don’t know. Webkit is the older brother of Blink (the engine in Chrome). They’re not different enough to count as separate.
dblsaikoMeh. WebKit is Blink as much as it is KHTML. It’s also not controlled by Google.
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CornflakeY’all can downvote this person but they aren’t necessarily wrong. Unfortunately, it seems you have to pick the poison you know in the browser space or take a risk with something else. And something else is usually just one of those original poisons wearing a different label. That said, there are some projects that tend to be of better form than others. Consider the Mullvad Browser and Librewolf. Those two are built on Firefox but are “fixed” enough to mitigate the crap Firefox has done. For Android, I believe Mull browser is the best one can get right now, it’s like a mobile Arkenfox.
The story is an overblown nothingburger and would make Firefox still the massively better choice. This is just agenda pushing at this point. But hey, keep using Chrome if you think they preserve your privacy and the web in a better way. No one is forcing you to use a Firefox based browser.
I don’t think there’s any sense in overlooking flaws just because something is overall better. Firefox is the massively better choice if the goal is to avoid data collection. However, I don’t think that means it’s fair to let things slide so easily. A community that calls out its developers when they make a mistake can ultimately improve things, and prevents devs from saying “they won’t understand and they won’t care.” Firefox isn’t a total angel when it comes to data collection, I mean telemetry being opt-out instead of opt-in is a pretty big boon, even if it’s not as bad as it is in other browsers. I’m not sure what agenda you believe is being pushed here, I never once suggested folks jump ship from Firefox to Chrome.
Possibly linuxWhat else are you going to use honestly. I use Librewolf but that still is Firefox based.
It is funny to me that they call targeted advertising “privacy preserving”
I’m not saying it is a bad choice. I just wouldn’t call Firefox my best friend. That’s all
You guys were friends with Chrome?
NickwithaCSeriously! Even back in 2007 I was all “chrome is faster? Great, now Firefox has some competition” I never switched to chrome. You couldn’t pay me to use that privacy nightmare.
I used it when it was new and google didn’t seem so bad. Google even sent me one of the original Chromebook prototypes (CH-47) before they launched as a product for sale. i don’t know when it started to become clear that google was going evil, but around 10 years ago it was really obvious where things were headed.
i don’t know when it started to become clear that google was going evil
It was around the time they removed “Don’t be evil” from their official philosophy.
🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 🏆I moved to Chrome after years of using Firefox when FireFox was having tons of issues that Chrome resolved.
Most of them are fixed now. Though it still has issues with selection boxes on some websites forcing me to use Chrome again for them. At least they’re government sites, mostly, so there’s no ads needing to be blocked… Yet.
I’ve been using Librewolf for quite a time now. Any other recommendations? No reason. Just got brow-curious.
Zen wasn’t all that good. Not polished.
299792458msI though it is not supposed to be polished since it rather new?
Kinda yeah but it almost feels like an alpha stage product. Still very promising.
ZoidsbergI’m on Librewolf too. Recently its been fully signing me out of my extensions on every startup, so I can’t just unlock bitwarden with my pin anymore. Anyone else run into this?
Midnight WolfThat was a bug in the bw extension, it’s not unique to LW
Ah, this just started in the last couple of weeks.
Brow-curious, lol. I’m gonna use that one
I love Librewolf too, and if you’re looking to explore other options I do recommend giving the Mullvad Browser a go. It’s another firefox fork but I believe it handles fingerprinting in a better manner. Similarly, it comes with uBlock Origin built in but also NoScript. I’d likely use it as my primary browser but I don’t really care for NoScript and removing the extension would ultimately defeat the fingerprint resistance of Mullvad.
The feature isn’t even mentioned in Mozilla’s data protection policies. The only way for users to turn it off is to find the opt-out function in a sub-menu of the browser’s settings.
Irritatingly, a Mozilla developer justifies the move by claiming that users can’t make an informed decision.
This is all IN ADDITION to them turning on DoH (DNS over HTTP) without permission which nullifies ad blockers.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
We have heard this a million times. The feature you’re referencing is a net positive for privacy and yet the zealots just cannot accept that fact.
First of all, every would is true. Nanana boo-boo is not a rebuttal.
Second, if it is so awesome for people and not about tracking, why do you sneak in changes that circumvent anti tracking without telling people about it and burying the change in submenus?
How many people regularly read submenus?
You’re so right about all of this /s
DNS over HTTPS is very good for privacy and security. Even Librewolf turns it on.
Putting ads in Firefox is bad in so many ways but encrypted DNS is good as it keeps DNS actually secure.
Not if you leave it at default, which is cloudflare, and is the only option. Fuckers MITM-ed half the internet, and now they’re after DNS. I’d rather trust my ISP and NSA more than them.
There are a relatively small amount of DNS over HTTPS servers. It makes sense they would go with a bigger company. Also having it on by default bypasses a lot of censorship.
I don’t like Cloudflare and I personally switched it to quad9
I would use firefox, but youtube is basically unusable on it. No idea why, but it is so much better on chrome
machinaeZER0When was the last time you tried it? There have been hiccups a few times where Ublock needed to push an update, but (at least on my end) those issues have tended to resolve quickly
If YouTube is your only issue you could also just keep chrome around as a YouTube player and use Firefox for everything else - unless space is exceptionally tight on your system, a second browser isn’t the worst thing to have on hand :)
I use YouTube daily, and it’s been awful for a while now. I don’t understand, my computer is very powerful, but youtube is unusable on Firefox. I tried to figure it out but no luck
Most likely hardware acceleration isn’t working properly.
I have that unchecked
Yeah, YouTube without hardware acceleration is unusable. You need that for anything beyond simple text and images. Give that a try, though it might not work properly depending on your setup.
Ok let me try that. I always saw everyone say disable it
Hope it helps!
IndiBronyI find that interesting because I hear it a lot, yet I’ve never had a problem with it. I use all the usual adblocks and whatnot, but it runs fine.
That’s what I hear, but it’s really bad for me.
I’d recommend backing up your bookmarks, then delete your profile in C:\Users<YourName>\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\
Reinstall only uBlock Origin, then give Firefox another shot.
Maybe try an extension like chameleon? I’ve had it on with ublock when using YouTube for a bit, makes it seem like I’m using chrome to YouTube.
I could try that too. Thanks!
Very much a ymmv, but I use Firefox on windows and Linux, don’t really have an issue with it. Hope it helps!
Not true. I haven’t used YouTube on anything but Firefox for a couple of years now. It’s 100% fine.
Don’t know what to tell you. It’s true for me.
In what way is it unusable?