'Unreal': Massive pushback after Trump 'admitted he stiffed his workers' at latest rally

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Love to hear ol’ Teamster guy’s thoughts on this.
You mean the guy who didn’t endorse anyone? I think it was clear that the higher ups would’ve liked to endorse Harris, but too many of the rank and file members support trump. I don’t think this’d move the needle much.
Members who support Trump will never hear this story so it won’t change their mind.
The Teamsters Guy did not endorse Trump, he used the platform to directly address the working class. If you listen to a speech he called people like Trump and the entire party out for who they are, called the entire duopoly out for who they are,
He didn’t have to admit it. Anyone that’s been paying attention to him for the last 30 some years knows that he’s a con man that doesn’t pay his bills.
Unfortunately it seems that the people who rally for him didn’t research him and alway think anything bad said about him is made up. This may actually help show them he really doesn’t like the working class.
Either they think it’s made up, or they just convince themselves that the face-eating leopard ”surely wouldn’t eat my face.”

I’ve been following this POS since late 80s, Grifters are going to grift and con men are going to con.

He doesn’t need to show them. He’s already said, “I don’t care about you. I just want your vote.”

You misunderstand. They hate immigrants and queers so much that they think that all of their problems will disappear if they elect the guy promising to purge society of undesirables.

Same story for every rise of Fascism ever witnessed.

Please sir, may I have another
There a page in project 2025 against overtime! Imagine that!

Plus more scattered throughout. Here’s just some of the obvious quotes about it

DOL should clarify that a home office is not subject to OSHA regulations and that time to set up a home office is not compensable time or eligible for overtime calculations

They want to remove overtime pay for work from home

Congress should amend the NLRA to authorize collective bargaining to treat national employment laws and regulations as negotiable defaults. For example, this reform would allow a union to bless a relaxed overtime trigger (e.g., 45 hours a week, or 80 hours over two weeks)

Allowing labor laws to be negotiable is going to be used by companies to given worse labor contracts to unions and is a blatant attempt to weaken their power

Here’s a decent article that includes some of the more conniving ways Project 2025 wants to gut overtime

Project 2025 Would Cut Access to Overtime Pay

Project 2025 would make eligibility for overtime—also known as time-and-a-half pay—more confusing for workers to navigate and easier for employers to abuse.

Center for American Progress
You’d think Unions would just reject that bullshit, but then Teamsters is … probably fully on board.
The Teamsters, who’re unabashably using bureaucratic obstruction and strict compliance to refuse to cross picket lines.
How is this shocking to anyone? He owes millions of dollars.
Who the fuck didn’t know that already? This dude is notorious for not paying anyone for like the last 40+ years.
His supporters should go ear-diaper again and refuse to get paid for their work
Oh, it gets better! Glad to see these new “shocking” reports that surprises nobody at all.
Lol I read that as “Unreal: massive push back after Trump admitted he sniffed his workers at latest rally.”

I fucking hate defending this piece of shit, but what he’s saying isn’t “they worked overtime and I refused to pay them.”

He said: “I hated to give overtime. I hated it. I shouldn’t say this, but I’d get other people in. I wouldn’t pay.”

So he’s doing the scumbag, but legal, thing of “you’re about to hit overtime so don’t come in/continue working. Someone else will finish/cover your shift.”

It just makes the media lose credibility, which is why we are here in the first place.

Gotta get them clicks though

I liked how the same author left us hanging and wrote a second seperate article for the quote about The Purge from the same rally, and made you click the link for it.

I don’t think people are upset because he broke the law, that’s a separate ref flag, they’re upset because he did whatever he could to reduce wages for ordinary Americans and boost profits for himself. It’s shitty and he’s saying it out loud.
I guess I’m desensitized to that because literally every retail job does the same thing. It’s definitely shitty though, but it’s “normal” in our shit society.
The GOP paints a beautiful picture of our future. /s It is just sad that this race is even close. It is sickening that a large amount of our population supports this.
The article states that he refused to make people work overtime and would bring other staff in…
Fascist Bojangles jerking the air cocks with them tiny hands

Here’s what I don’t get.

He’s incredibly consistent, not paying contractors, or employees. Or paying fractions of what the contract actually stipulated.

I don’t get why any contractor would work for him. any contractor that works with trump is going to get fucked over. its how he operates.

The world is full of incredible idiots. If your megaphone is big enough you can find one for just about anything you need.
I was unaware of just how true this is until Trump became president
Funnily enough, this far along into his political career you’d imagine most of the contractors he’s able to hire are his fan base.
Same reason anyone votes for him, I guess. He tucked all them over too.
“He wouldn’t screw me over, of course, because I’m one of the good ones
He’s essentially a con man, and there’s a sucker born every day.
The leopards will never eat my face

That’s called SMART BUSINESS!

-Republicans who got Ripped Off by Trump!

List of sources quoted in this list of "push back:

So if you were hoping for actual consequences from his base or even just someone new and noteworthy criticizing him, this is not the article for you. I’m glad the Trade Unions are going to spread the word though, that will be a good thing.

I despise Donald as much as any other sane person, but Raw Story is garbage.

Trump: I WILL FUCK YOU ALL UP THE ASS!

crowd: CHEERS

Trump: I THINK YOU’RE ALL TRASH AND I WISH I COULD THROW YOU ALL IN A GIANT POOL OF ACID

crowd: ERUPTS WITH APPROVAL

Trump: I WILL EAT YOUR CHILDREN

crowd: CHEERS WILDLY AND THROW BABIES IN THE AIR

You jest but make the “you” illegal immigrants and this becomes his “I Have a Dream” speech.
He’s notorious for not paying people. He purposely chose small contractors to help build and do work on his properties, then would say they did terrible work and he wasn’t going to pay them. He knew they wouldn’t be able to afford to take him to court to get the money owed.
He’s a successful businessman, he does indeed run the country exactly like he runs his businesses: stiff the people doing the work for him, divert the funds towards his nepotism clique, bleed the company dry until bankruptcy, and move on to do the exact same thing again because when you’re a star, they let you do it.
So he admits to being a thief.
He has done it for so long he really thinks that is what you are supposed to do. I was completely done with him when I read what he did to the people who built that casino all those years ago. He ruined lives and never once has he thought or cared about it. Its not something he is capable of.
Man of the people. Such a populist, this elitist billionaire is…

I despise Trump. I want him to lose. This kind of “journalism” needs to die so that the real stories about him don’t get buried by half truths and lies. Trump says enough shitty, fashist things that we don’t need to twist his words like this.

Trump said that he hates paying people overtime so, if they’re getting close to overtime, he brings other people in. He does what every business does and implements shifts. He didn’t say that he screws people out of overtime pay for time they worked. He avoids overtime pay by brining in a new shift of workers.

How often Trump stiffs his employees and contractors for real is a good story. This story is essentially a lie that attempts to portray Trump badly but really only makes “the left” look bad.

Don’t lie and ruin the credibility of left-leaning media. Use the real ammo that Trump drops like bread crumbs everywhere he goes.

Him screwing over workers IS journalism that works against him. His bullshit “man of the people” shtick and trying to reform the GOP as pro-labor is in direct contrast to him screwing people over.

Christ, you need to take a break.

I know that he does screw over employees, but how is that the case in this circumstance? He is sending workers home before they hit overtime and bringing in a different shift of workers. Every business does that. Every business attempts to minimize the amount of overtime that they pay. In fact, that’s the point of overtime laws, to disincentivize working employees too many hours.

I’m not defending him as a person. I’m saying this is shitty journalism that just gives him something additional to point at when he says that the media lies about him. We shouldn’t be giving him that ammo.

The American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations, the national trade union center known as AFL-CIO, said in response, “This isn’t a gaffe and he didn’t just misspeak — Trump said this in Michigan on Friday and Pennsylvania today. Trump cut overtime for millions of Americans as President — and his Project 2025 agenda will do it again.”

That says it all. It’s right there in the article. Now, if you’re saying its “totally legal, and totally cool” what he’s doing and admitting to, then that’s your own opinion. A fuck ton of other absolutely hate it and think it’s bullshit, which validates this reporting being out there.

Again, let me preface this by saying that I do not like Trump and think that he is terrible for the country. I’m just saying that he says enough awful shit that we don’t need to twist the truth or lie.

Okay, two things here. First, the statement that Trump “cut overtime for millions of Americans as President” has been rated as “Mostly False” by PolitiFact.

PolitiFact ruling: Mostly False. When contacted for comment, the Harris-Walz campaign pointed to news articles showing that former President Barack Obama proposed to extend overtime pay eligibility to more workers, but a judge blocked it in November 2016, just before it was slated to take effect. The Trump administration did not challenge the judge’s ruling and instead set its own overtime rule, which extended overtime pay to millions fewer people than Obama’s rule would have done.

The Obama rule was not in effect at the time Trump took office, so Trump’s administration did not cut an existing benefit.

Second, that’s not even what this article is about. This is about him saying the following:

I know a lot about overtime. I hated to give overtime. I hated it. I’d get … I shouldn’t say this … I’d get other people in. I wouldn’t pay. I hated it.

So, what does he say there? He hated paying overtime so he would bring in new people to take over the work. He didn’t stiff them. He sent them home after working a full shift and brought in new people to take over.

Now, he may have (probably did) stiff workers in other ways. This is not evidence of that.

Now, he may have (probably did) stiff workers in other ways.

He had an immense reputation for this for his whole career as a “businessman”. ^[1] ^[2]

USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills

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It could definitely could be interpreted that way. Liberals are so out of touch they don’t realize that that’s the point of overtime. To make employers hire more people instead of just pushing their current staff more and more.
bUt He’S sUcH A gOoD bUsSiNeSsmAn!
Somehow his supporters will believe he only means no overtime pay for black people, not good patriots like them.