Patrick LeavySep 25, 2024

I sometimes think that no one cares about online privacy, which makes me really sad, then I read this from @pluralistic - good to know!
https://pluralistic.net/2024/08/07/revealed-preferences/#extinguish-v-improve

So maybe people DO care, but just feel like they can't do much about it?

#surveillancecapitalism #dataprivacy #datarape #tracking

Pluralistic: The Google antitrust remedy should extinguish surveillance, not democratize it (07 Aug 2024) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

Show threadaxbySep 25, 2024

@patrickleavy @pluralistic I enjoyed this article, and I didn't know this and found it interesting:

> ... the advertising industry has been repeating since the days when it was waging a massive campaign against the TV remote on the grounds that people would "steal" TV by changing the channel when the ads came on.

I'm not very familiar with life before cable TV, but it seems especially offensive since cable TV is both paid and has a ton of ads. I hope this was at least before paid TV...

Show threadthe hatterSep 25, 2024
@axby @patrickleavy @pluralistic Some people seem to think if something has adverts, that entirely covers any and all costs. That has never been true, newspapers and magazines had adverts almost since their inception and still had a cover price. Movies in cinemas, on video and still on disk are pay-for yet with adverts. And yes, many TV services cost, but offset some with adverts. The internet once again learned you can't fund content with an acceptable amount of adverts.
Show threadJoy Aliza Denebeim

@hatter @axby @patrickleavy @pluralistic ads in movies is a very new phenomenon. I figured if I buy it I can do what I want with it, including removing ads.

If I have to go through an effort to remove the drm I'm going to back it up to a distributed system so I won't lose my work.

Sep 25, 2024 at 5:53pmTusky
Show threadthe hatterSep 26, 2024
@denebeim @axby @patrickleavy @pluralistic Did you always just turn up late to your cinema trips, or did you think you were watching a trailer for the movie about Jim's Big Construction Warehouse, just of I218 ? Product and movie adverts before adverts are extremely not-new. As for 'in' movies, product placement was a big thing, a long time ago, to the point where it is now much less of a big deal, and highly regulated. Adverts everywhere, since always.
Show threadthe hatterSep 26, 2024
@denebeim @axby @patrickleavy @pluralistic Or do you mean in streamed content. In which case you have 100% not *bought* that movie, that's why it's so cheap compared to actually-kinda-owning the movie on physical media. Broadcast TV generally broke up movies into segments with adverts in, and sure you could splice them out of your recorded edit, but it was still how the broadcast network offset the cost of obtaining broadcast rights for the movies.
Show threadJoy Aliza DenebeimSep 27, 2024
@hatter @axby @patrickleavy @pluralistic movie adverts yes , not for other things. Ever not while I was growing up. It's only been the last 20 years or so