Jon WorthI’m at #Innotrans all day. I’ll sporadically post in this thread.
First impression: CRRC (Chinese manufacturer) has the main advert at Messe Süd
And here it is! The most stupid rail vehicle currently produced. A hydrogen tram 🤬 Hyundai-Rotem #Innotrans
The Talgo electric locomotive for DB - series 105 - is here. They didn’t already build 19 of these I hope? 🤔 #Innotrans
Končar has a battery electric multiple unit here. That seems to charge only from a cable, not from an overhead wire in a terminus #Innotrans
And if you’re going “what’s wrong with a hydrogen tram?” you’re going to be dealt with totally scornfully. Put up a wire. That’s it. #Innotrans
As is a Stadler built new U-Bahn for Berlin - for the narrow profile lines. This is built super solidly, and is more roomy than existing designs. Impressive design. #Innotrans
There’s an Alstom Coradia Max EMU. Mix of single and double deck carriages. Inside it feels cramped - feels like they’re trying to cram in too many seats. #Innotrans
Warning Oslo. We’re going to be remotely controlling a tram in Oslo from Berlin. Fingers crossed the internet connection is solid. 🙂 #Innotrans
For the record: the tram is in a depot 🙂 #Innotrans
Now talking Western Balkans at #Innotrans
The DG of Macedonian Railways is here 🤯
This is the future Tirana central station. That’s not very central. And is meant to run in 2025. #Innotrans
If you’re a panellist at any event *don’t read your speech*. It’s a panel not a speech! #Innotrans
I assume they’re not going to allow questions here though… I have a few things to ask! 😂 #Innotrans
So this is the dude. Sinisa Ivanovski, DG of Macedonian Railways. I have questions… He’s the man presiding over phantom lines and phantom trains. #Innotrans
He’s being asked about ERTMS. He’s not got any trains to put modern signalling *in* 🤬 #Innotrans
This is Macedonia’s ETCS equipped line. No train has ever run on it since it was built in 2019. #Innotrans
This is just delusion. Macedonia has 7 operational trains, TOTAL, I was told in June. 3 multiple units, 4 freight locomotives. The problem is NOT operations first and foremost, but operations and maintenance. #Innotrans
I think I’m more depressed hearing these high level people from Balkan railways than I was when I was in the region in June on #CrossBorderRail #Innotrans
Albanian rail dude claims his new line is 80% complete. This is where the airport station is due to be. NO sign of building in June this year. He’s talking 💩 #Innotrans
It’s amazing this panel. It’s so off the scale delusional. I’ve heard some rubbish at panels over the years, but this is another level. #Innotrans
Here’s my blog post about Macedonia’s phantom rail lines https://crossborderrail.trainsforeurope.eu/north-macedonias-phantom-rail-line-and-why-i-am-worried-theyre-repeating-the-error-at-the-other-end-of-the-country/ #Innotrans
And I’m sorry Enno Wiebe from Unife has clearly never travelled by train in the Balkans. ETCS is *irrelevant* if you have no trains. #Innotrans
And there was an announcement of a single daily Paris - Berlin direct train from December. Nice but 🤷♂️
An hourly train Paris-Frankfurt would be more useful.
And I’m done at #Innotrans for today. More tomorrow, and also from an event in the evening hosted by Trainline where I’m a speaker
How many different silly GadgetBahn ideas does SNCF have? Here’s another one - at the CAF stand #Innotrans
Quixoticgeek@jon wtf is that?
@quixoticgeek a TELLI BEMU! (No I’ve no idea either)
Aslak Raanes@jon @quixoticgeek As it says on the label: «TELLi, une offre performante pur mettre le train au cœur des zones périubaines et rurales»
It's for driving trains dangerously close the the sea https://www.groupe-sncf.com/en/innovation/local-mobility/telli
The concept seems similar to Stadler #RSzero, a partly battery/electric train
prosiac@aslakr @jon @quixoticgeek Well the latest version of TELLI looks like a decent train for rural lines. The first version is completely a gadgetbahn with only a driver cab on the top and they were saying the sight of the driver will come from the cameras on the front !!
keplerniko
Braid in trains 
- solidarity with 
@jon @quixoticgeek Well, at least the TELLi thingy seems to be basically a pretty light TER unit in the style of a A TER but in double traction rather than one of these cursed gadget rail systems ? Like, you know, using real tracks and real stations on real railway lines.
@lewd @quixoticgeek but it has single axels? Like a Pacer?
Tristram Gräbener@jon @lewd @quixoticgeek maybe some S-tog (copenhagen) or Talgo inspiration?
Yet not sure what the gain would be compared to the RS Zero
Yet not sure what the gain would be compared to the RS Zero