Jon WorthI’m at #Innotrans all day. I’ll sporadically post in this thread.
First impression: CRRC (Chinese manufacturer) has the main advert at Messe Süd
And here it is! The most stupid rail vehicle currently produced. A hydrogen tram 🤬 Hyundai-Rotem #Innotrans
The Talgo electric locomotive for DB - series 105 - is here. They didn’t already build 19 of these I hope? 🤔 #Innotrans
Končar has a battery electric multiple unit here. That seems to charge only from a cable, not from an overhead wire in a terminus #Innotrans
And if you’re going “what’s wrong with a hydrogen tram?” you’re going to be dealt with totally scornfully. Put up a wire. That’s it. #Innotrans
As is a Stadler built new U-Bahn for Berlin - for the narrow profile lines. This is built super solidly, and is more roomy than existing designs. Impressive design. #Innotrans
There’s an Alstom Coradia Max EMU. Mix of single and double deck carriages. Inside it feels cramped - feels like they’re trying to cram in too many seats. #Innotrans
Lukas 🎢🇨🇭@jon I mean it's what they're saying 🤡
But has anyone told them, you would get more capacity if all coaches are double decker? 🤭
@K1ngdaKa88 I like the mix on Siemens Desiro HC. Lots of luggage? Go in single deck. Want a seat? Double deck. But Alstom doesn’t seem to have this clarity of thinking.
Michael Ummels (Trassenfinder)@K1ngdaKa88 @jon Double deck coaches do not match well with the requirement to have level boarding at a platform height of 76 cm.
@K1ngdaKa88 @jon I believe they learned from their mistakes. 😅
@K1ngdaKa88 @jon For Baden-Württermberg it would be best to have a PRM area in a car with both 55cm and 76cm entry as in SBB's Giruno. Unfortunately. they missed that chance with both the Desiro HC (whose PRM area is only accessible from 55cm) and with the new Coradia Max trains (where all doors will be at 76 cm platform height).
@ummels @K1ngdaKa88 ODEG Siemens Desiro HC fixed this.
Aslak Raanes@jon @ummels @K1ngdaKa88 This https://www.odeg-nes.de/unsere-zuege/desiro-hc ?
It would have been nice to have this but in addition Swedish/Norwegian loading gauge.
(Einsatztemperatur: –25 °C … might be a problem in the nordic countries)