Cabel SasserOn the eve of these Apple Event times, I will only say that testing Apple Intelligence on my Mac has led to many existential feature questions*.
But it is definitely funny how it has it out for my dad
*why? how does this help. i’m still opening the emails and the messages regardless of the summaries. in fact i’m MORE likely to open them more urgently, interrupting my work quicker, because the summaries can sometimes miss key information and i don’t want my brain to think i “read” them when i didn’t. the emails it prioritizes for me are often just emails about cancelled calendar events, already reflected on my calendar. so what is the… goal? to read my email less? how does this help that goal?
djf1107@cabel im surprised you havent disabled it(can you)?
Olivier Roux (moose)@cabel the fact that Apple seems to have jumped on the AI bandwagon so quickly when it clearly seems to not provide much actual value is deep,y worrying. It shows them not including a technology because they can do something great with it, but just out of FOMO.
JC 🪐💾🌄📚
Jari Komppa 🇫🇮@cabel I can only imagine all the drama generated by people only reading the AI summary which may be completely inverse to what the message's actual content says.
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when ai summarizes your email is the goal that you dont read the actual email or that it helps you decide when to read it? and how will you know if it summarized it accurately, without missing some key piece of information that would have not made you skip over it? what I don’t quite understand is how you’ll know whether or not it’s doing a good job, thereby making you unsure if you’re doing a good job.
Matt Barlow@cabel I can sorta see it for people who get tons and tons of email and want a way to prioritise what they read first? Pure speculation though; I get little enough email that even categorisation isn’t particularly useful.
But messages seems an odd one. The message body is much shorter for one, but also the contents are typically much more personal, even if casually so? Something about a machine summarising things loved ones are saying doesn’t sit right with me
Connor Mason@barlow @cabel Yes, this is a good use case. I get an enormous amount of email, and the summarization has been somewhat useful simply for prioritization. I still don’t trust it not to skip important details, so it’s not preventing me from actually reading the emails myself. But I do use it for email triage—quickly assessing if a long-winded email is urgent or whether I can deal with it later (and still read it myself).
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Radu Ursache@cabel it really helps me get over junk (not spam but annoyances) much faster. while sometimes it misses stuff, i can also miss stuff when i’m in a rush or so. it’s great to have this as an option
GadgetGav@cabel This echos my questions about AI in almost all situations and I haven’t found a good answer or use case anywhere.
We use machine learning for vision systems at work but that’s not where today’s AI bubble is pushing.
We use machine learning for vision systems at work but that’s not where today’s AI bubble is pushing.
Mario@cabel is it posible to disable AI summaries and categorization in Mail.app? I don’t want AI to mess with my email when I update to iOS18
Stephen J. Weber@squaredpx @cabel you can toggle summaries on/off by app for apps that support summaries. They added onboarding for that to a recent beta seed.
@francehopper great! Thanks!
lawbecke@cabel the goal is to mention AI as many times as possible in your event slide, investor call, promo packet, roadmap, etc.
@cabel “Missing Key Information” has been - by far - the feedback I’ve sent in the most. I’ve also noticed notifications on my devices with Apple Intelligence deliver significantly slower than those without because it’s trying to summarize them.