Daring Fireball★ The iOS Continental Drift Fun Gap
https://daringfireball.net/2024/09/ios_continental_drift_fun_gap
https://daringfireball.net/2024/09/ios_continental_drift_fun_gap
Taguntumi@daringfireball It’s called choice John, if you don’t want the shitty version of Chrome don’t download it. History shows that Apple has favoured its own products to the detriment of consumers and competitors - the new Microsoft?
John Gruber@Taguntumi Where do you go to download the shitty version of Chrome with its own rendering engine?
@gruber At the moment it doesn’t exist due to apples policies and if does you and I won’t get it because we don’t live in the EU but if it ever happens then people should have the choice to download it and make their own mistakes just like they do now with the Mac and Android.
@Taguntumi You don’t think people should have a choice to pick a platform where that can’t make a mistake like that?
Taguntumi@gruber sure I do. The problem here is no competition
Apple isn’t alone in trying to stop competition - look at OEM car parts but that doesn’t make either right.
It seems the US government stopped trust busting years ago and consumers have suffered.
I believe the Apple app store maybe should earn 30%. Normal retailers demand 30%+ - but they have competitors - who also want around 30%. Interesting to see if any real businesses open an app store and what they charge in 5 years - maybe 30%
NeXTSTEPER@gruber @Taguntumi Fuck Chrome John, but some of us want to use a proper Gecko version of Firefox on iOS that, unlike Safari, supports the most powerful adblockers like uBlock Origin.
I just don't understand why it's so controversial to want the iPhone to be more like the Mac, where user choice holds more weight. After all, the "iPhone runs OS X"...
Steve BarnesI'm not inherently opposed to other browsers (or even Flash, I guess) on iOS now that it's so much more capable. It might happen regardless.
I've never interpreted that "runs OS X" declaration as any kind of declaration of intent that iPhone is philosophically structured as a Mac is, though. Within one year the focus was entirely on HTML apps, and within two it was about starting to point out the differences between OS X and iPhone OS amid the similarities.
Jay Cagle@gruber @Taguntumi Isn’t it convenient that all the “mistakes” Apple prevents people from making are installing software from Apple competitors? This is arrogance and anti-competitive behavior being marketed (by you and Apple) as paternalistic goodness. I’m not going to use Chrome but let the people decide if Safari is better than Chrome on iOS, and you can continue writing hundreds of articles about why Chrome sucks.