What the actual fuck The Verge?! You have over 500 partners who need access to my "essential" cookies?

I mean, thanks for showing me the numbers on how insane data sharing is, but really? And those are the ones I can't opt out of?

Do they count like every employee as a partner, or is my data really being shared with hundreds of other businesses?

@alice

#Cookies #Data #DataPrivacy #DataBrokers #OptOut

@alice_watson @alice You say 'share', but I think it's really 'rent' and 'trade'. Yes...all those organizations (and more) really will get access to data generated by your visit and whatever latent data your browser gives them about your history elsewhere.
@alice_watson Businesses. Hundreds of businesses. They even have a list of all of them. Each one comes with their own privacy policy of course.
@alice_watson I've seen these popups that listed 1800 "partners".
@alice_watson @alice
They say “a man with two watches is never sure what time it is”. These days we should say “an advertiser with 500 fraud detectors is never sure the ad was really viewed”, I guess.
@alice_watson @alice I wonder what that 517 translates to in terms of actual people with access to the data. You just know at least 515 of those are wide open internally…

@alice_watson Verified (not that I didn't believe you). Following the "Essential" link, apparently all 517 "partners" claim the cookies are necessary to "Ensure security, prevent and detect fraud, and fix errors"

Bullshit.

@tjcrowder @alice_watson For a news website? What sort of security issues and fraud are taking place while I read tech news??
@mez Quite. I suspect they'd claim it's to protect them from The Verge committing ad fraud, but with all due respect to them (which is nil), they can F off.
@alice_watson @alice I thought that "essential" cookies was for things like session cookies and settings

@alice_watson @alice

"We value your privacy" ... as being profitable enough to sell it!

@alice_watson @alice
What the fuck happened to the internet?

I mean, capitalism obviously, but holy shit, how did we all let it come to this?

@jargoggles @alice @alice_watson

It’s all about optimists not believing that there are people out there who don’t share their optimism.

The same impulse is what’s behind why we have email spam, and why we have computer viruses.

@jargoggles
Venture capital vultures (yes, I realize that last word was redundant) happened. @alice_watson @alice
@alice_watson @alice It is utterly ridiculous & infuriating to say the least. Assuming you don't already, I would highly recommend using an RSS reader app instead. If anything it has saved my mental health not having to navigate these foolish settings just to stop them tracking me, well, the ones that let you that is. For what its worth I have 'Feeder' on my phone & a mix of 'Newsflash' (GUI) and 'Newsboat' (terminal) on my Linux machines. All have settings you can tweek. No ad tracking. Peace.
@alice_watson @alice My favorite part is when you see that OneTrust already knows what your preferences are because you've set them on other sites, but they still force you to confirm them for each site instead of offering a global setting.
@MisterMoo @alice_watson @alice I imagine they don't do that because it'd have to be a third party cookie or data sharing that requires additional consent funnily enough. Oh and of course they don't want to piss off their partners, so money.

@alice_watson @alice

One thing I don't understand is: if they are selling your data to third parties, why you aren't entitled to royalty payments for sale and usage thereof.

@alice_watson @alice weird how the strictly essential and targeting cookies are practically the same amount

i suspect whoever is doing their tag management doesnt give a fuck

@alice_watson @alice At that point, the "essential" category name is essentially meaningless, huh.
@alice_watson @alice I recently started DNS block list that blocks crapy companies on my LAN, if practical. This week I've added Reddit and Fandom. I guess here goes The Verge.
@alice_watson check out Spotify's cookie policy
@alice

@alice_watson @alice

Surveillance capitalism in action. :D

@alice_watson @alice it would be even "funnier" if those numbers had to add up each time you granted another consent... oh wait.

"essential for our financial survival" maybe? Except that is not how the GDPR works.

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@alice_watson @alice Fortunately, I have never visited The Verge's website. I now know that I never will.
@alice_watson @alice
This sounds like something you should point your national supervisory authority at. Sometimes the authorities only act, if someone issues a complaint. And if I have ever seen a clear violation of the gdpr, that is one!

@alice_watson @alice

Not sure if it helps anything, but there are browsseer extensions which delete the cookies after certain perioid and set other restrctions on them.

@alice_watson @alice I was just watching Citizenfour again and looking at the duckduckgo tracking app thingy on my phone.

Google is happy
@alice_watson
I just disabled JavaScript for TheVerge, fortunately it worked well enough for me not to mess up with noscript config

@alice_watson @alice „It might not be essential for you to share your data with our partners, but it’s essential to our business model.“ 😉

This is so wrong. Ads are annoying, but selling ads should be the end of it. Selling your actual readers is several steps too far. Problem is, they have to make money some way, and the old „sell a billboard in the web“ seems not to be sufficient anymore. 😢

@alice_watson @alice
no one interested in your “Social Media Cookies” ?

(or was the number just too big to fit into the little box?)

@alice_watson @alice it's so CREEPY! wtf.

And it's happening on your phone - the apps don't even need to be open!
Who said that this is OK? Not me.

#surveillancecapitalism

@alice_watson @alice

I was right to avoid that site.

- he said smugly

@alice_watson @alice

Yeah, I need to update CookieMunger to happily accept cookies to munge.

https://github.com/jrconlin/cookie_munger

GitHub - jrconlin/cookie_munger: A stupid idea to abuse the hell out of cookies, because who doesn't like fuzzy cookies?

A stupid idea to abuse the hell out of cookies, because who doesn't like fuzzy cookies? - jrconlin/cookie_munger

GitHub
@alice_watson yes, your data is really being shared with hundreds of other businesses who, guess what, share your data further with hundreds times more businesses but now without you knowing of it.
@alice_watson @alice
Browser extension "Disconnect" blocks a lot of that stuff.
@alice_watson @alice I just had a thought, I should make a browser extension that modifies all my cookies to have garbage data. If they wanna give me garbage, why not give some back? If I feel like getting real fancy, I could carefully feed some false, but plausible data to poison their dataset.
@alice_watson @alice but please don't use ad/track blockers!
@alice_watson @alice
What they call "essential" is not what any sane person would call essential. 🤬
@alice_watson @alice
There's a single number of partners that essential cookies should be shared with, and that is always 0.
Maybe 1, if you count a captcha service as essential.
@alice_watson @alice it's not just the 500 partners but also how granular the data is. See how much faster the web is when you block that traffic.
@alice_watson Use Duck Duck Go as your browser.
@alice_watson
This isn't just scummy @verge , this is downright illegal as a blatant breach of the GDPR. What do you make of this @noybeu / @europe ?
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