I really feel like humans should stop trying to innovate now and start removing rather than adding. Civilisation has become like a Heston Blumenthal eating experience, with dry ice and music and lasers, when really what we need is just a really good potato.
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That seems difficult to believe
@TheBreadmonkey Yup. Roasted in coals from the fire we're warming ourselves with.
@TheBreadmonkey in the words of the famous philosopher Homer Simpson β€œMmmmmm potatoes”

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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius β€” and a lot of courage β€” to move in the opposite direction."
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@TheBreadmonkey I agree,a potato that is not GMOed to a fast food specifications like the common Russet is. We need a real heirloom gem.
@TheBreadmonkey I remember a few years back, at Christmas, Waitrose was selling a "special" Heston invention of Earl Grey flavoured stollen, which just made me go "no, dammit. Just have a piece of stollen flavoured stollen, with a cup of Earl Grey tea like a sane person. Stop being silly."

@TheBreadmonkey for what it's worth, I work somewhere where we take making good potatoes really seriously! e.g. developing varieties that are more climate change and pest resistant, or ones that can be cooked at lower temperatures to reduce fuel consumption (esp. in developing countries). More info https://potato.hutton.ac.uk/ Unfortunately, the press doesn't go for this in the same way it goes for ChatGPT/geoengineering/AI/etc...

Disclaimers: (i) I'm just a simple statistician and not a potato-ologist, please don't ask me complicated potato questions (ii) I agree with your point in general :)

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@TheBreadmonkey This reminded me of this study: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03380-y

"...we show that people systematically default to searching for additive transformations, and consequently overlook subtractive transformations."

People systematically overlook subtractive changes - Nature

Observational and experimental studies of people seeking to improve objects, ideas or situations demonstrate that people default to searching for solutions that add new components rather than for solutions that remove existing components.

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@TheBreadmonkey Kennebec potatoes have been gaining a following here in Canada, and are incredible as fries (chips on your side of the pond). Here in Victoria, we have a fish and chips place right on the inner harbour pier called Red Fish, Blue Fish. That's what they use, and their Halibut and Chips are exquisite. I'd eat these every day if my wife and cardiologist would allow it.
@TheBreadmonkey so, what have you got against porridge? #FalseEquivalence
@TheBreadmonkey we need sufficiently advanced technology that we can live a natural life. Catbuses bounding thru the woods rather than paving everything in sight. All the ugly and poisonous infrastructure deeply buried or off planet. Communications but gardens. A shared culture of reverence for the life of Earth and the diversity of people.
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@michaelgemar @TheBreadmonkey quite nice. I am sure some will find it not to their liking , but like it or not the entire earth is a managed park now and we need to become good park managers. And get rid of technology that's so primitive as to require paved roads or wires strung up.
@TheBreadmonkey the way I put it is just because we can do it doesnt mean it's worth it. Yeah, we invented something, but where does it fit overall? what do we not need anymore?