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Randahl FinkJohn Oliver's recent takedown of Benjamin Netanjahu's illegal setler policies is one of the best episodes Last Week Tonight has ever produced.
Thought provoking, frightening even, but very, very important.
If you are against genocide, boost this:
Paskajärven kaunis Charlotta@randahl ”If it looks like apartheid, smells like apartheid, sounds like apartheid, it is apartheid. But what does apartheid smell like? I thought South Africa produced only one type of musk.”
Excellent, thorough and powerful episode. A few laughs too, but mostly just direct honest reporting of the horrific unjust reality.
Horror Author Reed Alexander@randahl
This is probobly the loudest a pundit has been about the genocide and we need to boost it.
This is probobly the loudest a pundit has been about the genocide and we need to boost it.
CHB@randahl Thank you SO much for sharing. I had missed that.
But oh it is worth so much to watch. As I myself have said for so many years - I have nothing against people of the Judaism, but oh my what the country of Israel is doing with occupied lands. 🤬🤬🤬
It is truly a fully illegal apartheid oppression going on. And we have silently just accepted it like that for decades.
Hans-Cees 🍋🌲🦔🦦🐝🦋🐛🚅🇸🇳🇵🇾🇹🇬🇹🇲@randahl well, better watch what the other side has to say as well.
I am of the opinion that Both Israël as Palestine are caught by extremist governmental processes, and the civilians suffer. I dont trust neither #hamas nor Israël propaganda. And you Just trusted views very much in accordance ewith #hamas propaganda.
Funes@hanscees is this youtube channel selling mugs that say "anti zionist tears" supposed to not be israeli propaganda?
SomeAnoTooter@hanscees @randahl since when is the icj Hamas propaganda? Hamas is a terrorist group and the international court of justice is surely not it's mouthpiece. It's about international law. Israeli settlers have to get out of the west bank. Plain and simple. It is a violation against the law. If you don't think so, you are ok with people occupying your home, too, which obviously can be pretty problematic, which is in the nature of the law of the strongest(jungle).
This video is about the west bank.
This video is about the west bank.
Tobias Denkinger@denki @randahl I must phrase better what I mean. With "hamas propaganda" I loosely refer to the complex of beliefs and utterences normally used to discredit the existence of Israël.
The Hamas and also (in the past) PLO charters want Israël to stop to exist. They do not accept any jewish state. The memeplex that goes with this worldview consists of a whole set of utterences that are false or fascist (unless you think wiping Israël of the map is ok). (1/2)
The Hamas and also (in the past) PLO charters want Israël to stop to exist. They do not accept any jewish state. The memeplex that goes with this worldview consists of a whole set of utterences that are false or fascist (unless you think wiping Israël of the map is ok). (1/2)
I will make a mindmap to better illustrate this.
The jewish extremists have a similar memeplex of course. My problem with the Oliver video is that he paraphrases the hamas playbook in this sense. Also when a seriously journalist should know better.
Take how John Steward takes this on: a lot better
@hanscees
The piece does not question the existence of Israel in the slightest. The practice of settling occupied land is in question.
The "memeplex" you are talking about apparently contains some factual assertions ('settling the West Bank is illegal') and some ideological assertions ('Israel should not exist'). Do you suggest that endorsing one assertion of this "memeplex" means that someone aligns with the entire thing?
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@denki @randahl What I see happening is that memes like "Palestina free ftrttsee" cross over and get normalised between the "hamas memeplex" to "concerned humanist" memeplex, while those chanting the memes are not aware what it means what they utter.
So yes, endorcing public speech with grave distortions of reality, through normalizing extremist memes, toward extremist views, is a worry for sure.
So yes, endorcing public speech with grave distortions of reality, through normalizing extremist memes, toward extremist views, is a worry for sure.
@hanscees
I agree. This is a problem particularly with many pro-Palestine protests in The West.
Some people now see the Israeli government as the bad guys and Hamas as the good guys and victims. In reality, of course, neither of them is the good guys and the civilians in the area are being victimized.
I just don't see how this piece does any of what you claim. In particular, I don't see any great distortion of reality or any normalizing of extremist memes/views.
@randahl
Jonathan Kamens 86 47@hanscees @randahl
1) There isn't a single word of "Hamas propaganda" in the John Oliver video. Conflating supporting Palestinian rights with supporting Hamas is racist bullshit.
2) The IAM video doesn't actually successfully refute anything Oliver said. It also rejects the truth of the Naqba, a sure sign of ahistoric pro-Israel propaganda.
I don't waste my time interacting with people who support genocide and apartheid, so you're blocked. 👋
1) There isn't a single word of "Hamas propaganda" in the John Oliver video. Conflating supporting Palestinian rights with supporting Hamas is racist bullshit.
2) The IAM video doesn't actually successfully refute anything Oliver said. It also rejects the truth of the Naqba, a sure sign of ahistoric pro-Israel propaganda.
I don't waste my time interacting with people who support genocide and apartheid, so you're blocked. 👋
Michael Porter@randahl Season/Episode number, so it’s easier to find… out there?
Malte@randahl Is genocide or possible genocidal acts tackled in this episode? I don't remember it. And I would recommend to use the term with care.
@Schepphimself @randahl definition of genocide is so broad it can nearly always be used. On one hand it is necessary and clearly marks the heart of what drives those crimes (against a cultural group[imho fits well]), on the other hand it is thrown around a lot(maybe, because it is still a huge problem, even so people can know better!). it's mentioned in the show particularly in context with "never again" not only meaning Jews but everyone should not fear a genocide.
KevinOnEarth@Quantillion @randahl Genocide is a complicated juristic term that has a great historical and emotional meaning behind it. For that reason I recommend not throwing it around which I feel is the case in the heated discourse not only at the moment. That's why I said 'use it with care'.
it's B! Cavello 🐝@randahl @AliceMarshall #Alt4You image description (you may be able to update your post to make it more accessible): Still from Last Week Tonight featuring John Oliver speaking to the camera from behind a desk
@randahl @AliceMarshall Thank YOU for updating!
Muiris@randahl Is Google censoring this video in certain countries? I doubt it’s a copyright issue as I can watch it no problem in Ireland.
Martin Vermeer FCD@randahl more than 2/3 is not about Netanyahu, it is about the illegal settlement & apartheid from Israel in the west bank. It is not just one man who is responsible for the wrongdoings & (war) crimes.
Lwt have done a good job to put light on "the situation" on/ occupation in the west bank. Israelis have to take accountability for it. International law has to be upheld. It's so vile what some Israelis are doing in&to the west bank in shadow of the war in Gaza. Violence doesn't justify violence!
Lwt have done a good job to put light on "the situation" on/ occupation in the west bank. Israelis have to take accountability for it. International law has to be upheld. It's so vile what some Israelis are doing in&to the west bank in shadow of the war in Gaza. Violence doesn't justify violence!
Gramshelper🇨🇦🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🇺🇦😷@randahl I have Crave Streaming service in Canada and never miss John Oliver's Last Week Tonight. That episode was very powerful. His researchers are very thorough. And his delivery is always impactful.
OtownKim@randahl He deserves more Emmys for this Season!! It's the best one yet!!
Winter TrabexI had the opportunity to cover a woman from Hebron coming to town to tell her story. She confirmed a lot of what Oliver said. She's an older lady who is mostly just trying to make a living as an independent textile person.
If anything, Oliver was too tame in his description of how bad things really are over there.
@trabex I agree. But I think that is a deliberate stylistic choice to get a broader audience onboard, which I can see the benefit of.
Howard Cohen@randahl He and his show are national treasures.
Gatekeeper..Please boost this...wow
Edelruth, PBS Passport HolderWarning, it's a tough viewing.
Digital@randahl Sadly not available in the UK.
@xi_timpin Aldo available on (HBO) Max.
@randahl What's his beef with the UK..
It's been made it unavailable here...
so f him and his blah blah if we don't get to hear it.
It's been made it unavailable here...
so f him and his blah blah if we don't get to hear it.
Cifer@hindsight Pretty sure *he* didn't make anything unavailable, business daddy HBO did.
@Teskariel OK.. edited to be "It's been" happy ;-)))
@hindsight I very much doubt they made it unavailable in UK themselves. This has probably simply been censored.
Edit: This is a distribution rights issue after all. @randahl
@randahl I see. Thanks for clearing that up. @hindsight
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Thanks for sharing. It’s a great explainer. My sympathies switched in favor of the Palestinians years ago after watching some films and documentaries about the daily indignities the Palestinians are forced to suffer. I don’t get it. Things would be so different now if only Jewish Israelis had chosen a different path. Instead, over and over, they’ve chosen cruelty. It’s like “God’s stiff-necked people” haven’t learned a darn thing from all of their own suffering. Peace, love, generosity, kindness: these are the ways to win over your enemies.
Thanks for sharing. It’s a great explainer. My sympathies switched in favor of the Palestinians years ago after watching some films and documentaries about the daily indignities the Palestinians are forced to suffer. I don’t get it. Things would be so different now if only Jewish Israelis had chosen a different path. Instead, over and over, they’ve chosen cruelty. It’s like “God’s stiff-necked people” haven’t learned a darn thing from all of their own suffering. Peace, love, generosity, kindness: these are the ways to win over your enemies.
Theriac@randahl
for the elgoogphobic:
https://iv.ggtyler.dev/watch?v=NqK3_n6pdDY
https://pied.video/watch?v=NqK3_n6pdDY
for the elgoogphobic:
https://iv.ggtyler.dev/watch?v=NqK3_n6pdDY
https://pied.video/watch?v=NqK3_n6pdDY
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@randahl I really appreciate this. I learned a lot!
@b_cavello if you want to know more, there is more information in this episode of Think:
mvario@randahl
Agreed. I'm still surprised he was able to get this on. Television in the US is seldom very critical of Israel. Oliver is pretty much the only political program I watch.
Agreed. I'm still surprised he was able to get this on. Television in the US is seldom very critical of Israel. Oliver is pretty much the only political program I watch.
zetabeta@randahl
j.d. vance and sex with a couch. it is false story. and i highly appreciate that people do not spread false stories.
j.d. vance and sex with a couch. it is false story. and i highly appreciate that people do not spread false stories.
@zetabeta @randahl So you watch an extraordinarily informative and enlightening half-hour video about the horrific treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank, and the one thing you feel compelled to comment on is a 10-second _joke_ told by a _comedian_ halfway through the video?
Wow, who can imagine why you've had this Mastodon account for nearly a year and you only have two followers.
Of which I certainly won't be one, since I'm blocking you now.
👋 *plonk*
Wow, who can imagine why you've had this Mastodon account for nearly a year and you only have two followers.
Of which I certainly won't be one, since I'm blocking you now.
👋 *plonk*
chef 😎@randahl
Most LWT episodes are outstanding. John Oliver and his team are excellent. 👍🏻
Most LWT episodes are outstanding. John Oliver and his team are excellent. 👍🏻
Andrzej Stamburski@randahl It's meant to be satire (funny?), but it's too painful for me to watch till the end.
@randahl
Just watched it. The whole Gaza situation truely is shocking, illegal, dramatic and deeply frustrating.
How on earth Israel have got away with this up to now is beyond me. There are no other words to describe Israel's strategy than discrimination, aggression, arrogance and - yes, sadly - genocide. 🤬🙁
The settlements are illegal and morally wrong. The land is Palestinian land. Israeli settlers need to disappear.
@randahl Oh yes. Watched it a while ago.
Jennifer@randahl that episode is excellent, everyone should watch it.
SearingTruth"The solution to the Israeli/Palestinian problem is simple.
Unfortunately it demands both sides be treated equally, and thus far this has not been done.
First, here's an abridged history.
After the fall of the Ottoman empire Britain owned much of its land (the "British Mandate"). The League of Nations Mandate for Palestine of 1922 laid the plans for an Israeli state, but Israelis and Arabs committed many terrorist acts against each other and the British and it didn't work. After WWII there was a justifiable moral outcry at the slaughter of innocent Jews so it was decided that Israel must be created immediately and the UN instituted the United Nations Palestine Partition Plan of 1947.
And unfortunately, since Arabs were considered primitive second class citizens it was decided that the land where Israel now resides would be purchased from the British and all its current inhabitants would either submit, or be stripped of all title to their land. And because of Arab disunity and political infighting they failed to stop it.
Since then, America has simply taken one side, turning a blind eye to Israels terror and collective punishment, while condemning Palestinian terror.
So here's the simple answer.
Demand that terrorism stop on all sides, that Israel return to the borders awarded it in 1947, and that Jerusalem be divided equally. And withdraw all funding from both sides until it happens.
Until then there will always be war."
SearingTruth
blausand 🐟#HBO is not on Mastodon, which is understandable. They would have to digest harsh words like "CHOOSE YOUR SPEED OF DYING BY MAKING YOUR PROGRAMME DELIBERATELY AVAILABLE MUCH EASIER ON YOUTUBE THAN ON YOUR FUCKING WEBSITE"