Erik Uden 🚩112 years ago today #OTD
Badabum@ErikUden liegt in der Natur des Menschen erst aktiv zu werden wenns kracht.
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Ajay@ErikUden Yep, we repeatedly ignored all warnings #history #CimateChange https://traffic.libsyn.com/yinhistory/EP19-Climate_Change.mp3
T.F.G.“And what will they burn instead of coal?”
“Water,” replied Harding.
“Water!” cried Pencroft, “water as fuel for steamers and engines! water to heat water!”
“Yes, but water decomposed into its primitive elements,”
[...]
"Yes, my friends, I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable."
[...]
"Water will be the coal of the future."
--
Jules Verne, "The Mysterious Island" Part 2, Chapter 11
published 1875.
I just love this mans visions. He was predicting so much stuff back then.
Sarah WActually in the story they talk about burning hydrogen and oxygen like it was done with coal. But still, the prediction is a astounding for that time.
"Yes, my friends, I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable. Some day the coalrooms of steamers and the tenders of locomotives will, instead of coal, be stored with these two condensed gases, which will burn in the furnaces with enormous calorific power."
Of course today the technology is far more advanced. Hydrogen is used in fuel cells to produce electricity ... and in future maybe in fusion reactors, yes.
R.L. LEOh really? I didn't know it was a thing already in the 1830s. Learned something new today. Can make my checkmark :-)
And yes. Jules Verne did a LOT of research for his books! In all fields... botanics, geology, geography, technology, mineralogy, demography and even in all kinds of social fields.
Kevin Leecaster@TFG @herrLorenz @Sarahw @ErikUden
Last month in South Korea a 437 unit apartment complex opened up that uses hydrogen fuel cells to provide the electricity for the tenants along with heat btw.
https://fuelcellsworks.com/news/korea-ulsan-unveils-worlds-first-hydrogen-fuel-cell-powered-apartment-complex/
Last month in South Korea a 437 unit apartment complex opened up that uses hydrogen fuel cells to provide the electricity for the tenants along with heat btw.
https://fuelcellsworks.com/news/korea-ulsan-unveils-worlds-first-hydrogen-fuel-cell-powered-apartment-complex/
Francois MarechalHydrogen is an energy vector and a reducing agent, it is rarely found in nature. To be part of the transition it needs to be efficiently produced from water using a renewable energy source (intermittent), stored (haha small molecule difficult to store) and efficiently (thermodynamically : ask Carnot) converted into energy services. Burning hydrogen therefore ranks very badly in efficient conversion chain.
enoch_exe_inc@Sarahw @enoch_exe_inc It’s a bit more complicated than that, but essentially, hydrogen is channelled into an anode that separates it into protons and electrons. The electrolyte is a membrane that allows only protons to pass while siphoning the electrons into a separate circuit, generating electricity. On the cathode end, oxygen is catalysed into ions that recombine with the protons that passed through and the electrons from the circuit to make water.
@Sarahw @enoch_exe_inc Its only waste products are excess oxidiser (i.e. air), water which must be removed/evaporated, as well as a tiny amount of other stuff if there are impurities present in either the fuel or the parts.
Currently, the main problem with this technology is that it’s more expensive than most other sources of clean energy, including solar panels.
Acmeworks@ErikUden Ah cool, ich hab' den Artikel vor Jahren mal gesehen und ewig danach gesucht!
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CorpomancerWhy we only write it down as 37.4 billion tonnes these days, the extra zero's would leave an impression.
Keith@ErikUden
Wait.. "a few centuries". If they meant one, they would have said "a century". Two, they would have written "a couple", so "a few" must mean at least three, right? So we're grand till 2212 anyways.
Wait.. "a few centuries". If they meant one, they would have said "a century". Two, they would have written "a couple", so "a few" must mean at least three, right? So we're grand till 2212 anyways.
J.Sʜᴀʀᴘ🌍🇺🇦Fʀᴇᴇᴅᴏᴍ+DᴇᴍᴏᴄʀᴀᴄʏThe oil industry knew from the very beginning what would happen.
Wandering Star@ErikUden "Two" is indeed a few number of centuries. Damn.
Kampfteppich@ErikUden
Wow, so früh wusste die Menschheit schon etwas über die #Treibhausgase und die Wirkung von #CO2!
Der Ursprung dieses Artikels ist sogar noch früher:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/1912-article-global-warming/
Voll Krass, äy!
Benjamin E.@ErikUden Le charbon est toujours l'énergie numéro un depuis cet période. Le charbon vert est renouvelable. Nous avons les technologies pour rendre ses émissions de CO2 minimale. Nous pouvons même envisager de construire ces centrales électriques modernes au milieu de forêt pour que les arbres absorbe le carbone restant. Pourvu que les lobbies du nucléaire et du minier lui lâche un peu de leste. La Chine a inauguré une de ces centrales électriques au charbon avec peu d'émission récemment.
CodeByJeff@ErikUden if only we hadn't spent so much time laughing at those History majors...
1337 $#!+ I did that@ErikUden $#!+ really?
revolution of love
Adrian Morales@ErikUden They knew, but they didn't care because, as King Louis XV of France so aptly put it, "After us, the flood."
Konosocio@ErikUden notice that it is also the first case of underestimating climate change, as the effects set in 100 years later instead of centuries later...
Luc@ErikUden checks out :o https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/1912-article-global-warming/
I thought my grandparents couldn't have known about global warming for most of their lives but this is two decades before they were even born. *Their* parents could have known of it already at their birth, depending on how news spread at the time and how seriously this was taken (article says "centuries" as well as having no impact description).
I shall have to do more research and update my worldview... thanks :P
Hesitation Is Defeat@ErikUden some fellas say that the temperature is already rising due to a natural cycle which is true however the effects the speed of global warming is more than alarming at this unnatural rate.
Yet I hope fellas educate themselves of this issue that we've yet to know the magnitude of it's effects.
Yet I hope fellas educate themselves of this issue that we've yet to know the magnitude of it's effects.
George@ErikUden So this has been "news" for at least a century. Why do governments refuse to do the right thing and keep kow towing to fossil fuel corporations? Tax them extra to clean up ecological damage they have caused and instate renewable energy.
Richard W. Woodley ELBOWS UP 🇨🇦🌹🚴♂️📷 🗺️@ErikUden
They told us so.
They told us so.
deBaer@ErikUden "In a few centuries". How optimistic people used to be…
Elon Muksis 🇺🇦 🇵🇸 🇪🇺
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Lotus Blossom@ErikUden And in 1856, Eunice Newton Foote discovered the greenhouse effect, writing "An atmosphere of that gas [CO2] would give to our earth a high temperature; and if, as some suppose, at one period of its history, the air had mixed with it a larger proportion than at present, an increased temperature from its own action, as well as from increased weight, must have necessarily resulted."
Asbestos@ErikUden
I have a book from the late 1920 about inventors and their projects.
Wave energy, and solar are a few of the things being done. One man developed a huge engine running off solar heated water. Pipes with oil were run through long reflectors. Sadly he comments "We had trouble with the oil getting burnt so we used Alochlor" Alochlor is a PCB oil
I have a book from the late 1920 about inventors and their projects.
Wave energy, and solar are a few of the things being done. One man developed a huge engine running off solar heated water. Pipes with oil were run through long reflectors. Sadly he comments "We had trouble with the oil getting burnt so we used Alochlor" Alochlor is a PCB oil
Edelruth, PBS Passport Holder
Beata@ErikUden And here in 2024, August 14 is also a Wednesday.
sudonymouse@ErikUden On the eve of the 1855 Paris Exposition, Eugène Huzar published "La fin du monde par la science", where he compiled the many worries his contemporaries had about modern industrial practices (building channels, mining coal, burning coal, etc.). One of them reads as follows: "What if turning coal into atmospheric CO2 changed our climate?"
https://www.senscritique.com/livre/La_fin_du_monde_par_la_science/205906/details
@ErikUden And https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/1912-article-global-warming/ mentions Svante Arrhenius (1896), coining the term "green-house effect" while studying the link between atmospheric gas concentrations and temperature on Earth, already acknowledging that humans can change those concentrations through their actions.
Eddie J**Climate change first ‘went viral’ exactly 70 years ago**
https://theconversation.com/climate-change-first-went-viral-exactly-70-years-ago-205508
**È da 70 anni che ci diciamo che stiamo causando il cambiamento climatico**
https://www.ilpost.it/2023/06/11/cambiamento-climatico-gilbert-plass-1953/
🇪🇺 Yet Another Owl🕯️🕊️In fact the effect has proved itself to be considerable after just one century.