Though she showed up pregnant, bleeding and in pain, emergency room doctors in Texas turned Kyleigh Thurman away, handing her a pamphlet on miscarriage and telling her to “let nature take its course.”
Three days later, the ER finally admitted her. But it was too late; her fallopian tube had already ruptured.
There are at least 100 others like her.
https://www.mississippifreepress.org/over-100-pregnant-women-some-bleeding-or-in-labor-turned-away-from-emergency-rooms-since-dobbs-ruling/
Abortion. Bans. Harm. Everyone.
Well, sorry, I'm too family-oriented not to. Maybe if the dads were more involved the moms would not have been hung out to dry in the first place.
I would be the first to say that a society that bans abortion is ultimately doomed because such a ban reduces its citizens to the status of breeding livestock--as do, btw, laws permitting abortion as such laws are merely the sunny side of the same coin.
I would also say a society that foregoes the notion of two-parent families is in just as much trouble.
By definition, pregnancy can never be only about the mother. Like it or not, it is also about the so-called "sperm donor" (Talk about breeding livestock!) as well as a potentially historically spectacular lifetime. Let's not demean it as a momentary side effect of life. Let's not be that short-sighted. Please.
How about this:
"Any person or agency that attempts to enforce its opinion of whether or not any woman's pregnancy is permissible shall be eligible for prosecution the same as attempted kidnapping."
"Insofar as fathers are required to pay child support, mothers are required to bring a healthy pregnancy to term if the father states that he is assuming sole responsibility of the child after birth."
Let's throw some perspective on this dumpster fire.
Abortion bans will be remembered as one of the great atrocities of our time. I see no real difference between bans and human sacrifices to the gods.
Any solution that is not merely a band-aid must include the assurance that it will not happen again.
Please remember that every legislature that passed bans knew, in complete detail, the full scale of what it was creating and did it anyway. Every one.
No politician will cast a risky vote uninformed. That they continue to ban abortions after Trump lost and will lose again tells you they know what they are doing and don't care. They know they are attempting to validate their "cause" by creating sacrifices to it. It's a manifestation of the psychosis of those who embraced slavery.
Never forget that.
This is our world now. Will we just feel bad about it or do something about it? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
How about this: An adult human is fully and solely responsible for making decisions about their health, including but not limited to decisions about pregnancy and abortion.
I wonder if you’re as keen for others to decide health issues for you as you seem to be for deciding for them.
"Sole responsibility" sounds sexy in an abstract discussion but the reality doesn't follow.
Imagine you're rock climbing (for your health) and you fall off the rock. You're not dead but you're so banged up you might wish for it.
If rock-climbing doesn't work for you, pick any automobile accident with injury.
"Sole responsibility" would demand that you find your own way to the hospital, regardless of you injuries. This requires that persons who respect your sole responsibility ignore you as you drag your shattered body--like Hugh Glass (The Revenant)-- back to civilization.
Oh, btw, insurance? Is your insurance premium paid for solely by you without subsidy from *any* other source (like a pool of insurance customers)? *Highly* unlikely. "Solely" means solely, right? Fully, too, right?
As it is, we have Good Samaritan Laws to protect the folks who quite reasonably and quite reliably fail to respect your "sole responsibility". Lucky you, I say.
Who would refuse or deny any other human, or any other creature, for that matter, that kind of good fortune?
Context, my friend. This thing we label "deciding for others" never makes sense without context, context all these state legislatures ignore, some to a truly horrific degree.
Abortion bans are misogyny--the disdain of women--literally written into stone.
The only time a woman is solely responsible for her pregnancy is when she has been completely ostracized by the society she lives in. Is that what we're doing?
People gotta talk more, my friend. We're assuming waaaaaaaay too much.
Sorry, my friend, I'm not twisting your words. Sole responsibility in making decisions only makes sense when you are solely responsible for carrying them out.
If you are not capable of carrying out the decision solely, which rarely, if ever, happens, then you cannot claim sole responsibility in making it.
In my experience, talking about the sole responsibility of others is passing the buck.
There is one, and only one, scenario in which "sole responsibility" in decision making works. That is when your decision cannot impact, in any way, the life of any other.
The simple social nature of humankind ensures that will most likely never happen.
Life is incredibly complex. Fortunately, we're incredibly good at dealing with complexities, or we are capable of it.
Let's not forget to stretch our wings from time to time.
Great convo. Thanks!
Vote. Vote Democratic Party, all the way down the ballot. Republicans have shown us that every race on the ballot matters.
Christ fucking Jesus, how the fuck are people so stupid that they willingly turned this country into an absolute shithole with crap like this.
@ashton I understand you sue the people / businesses that have the money, but this is a rational decision on the part of the hospital given the laws in the state of Texas.
It’s the lawmakers in the state that are at fault here. Reporting like this obfuscates this. She’s suing the hospital because she can’t sue the state.
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