Tim BrayAug 12, 2024

This is gross, and further confirms Apple’s transition from innovation to rent-seeking, but there is a good solution: Stop having an app. Patreon would work just fine as a web site, no?

https://mas.to/@carnage4life/112950113668058280

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Dare Obasanjo (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image Apple has informed Patreon that it will be kicked out of the App Store unless it pays the 30% tax for all donations. Patreon has started a migration process that will take until November 2025 to transition all creators to the Apple billing system and making less money. https://techcrunch.com/2024/08/12/apple-says-patreon-must-switch-to-its-billing-system-or-risk-removal-from-app-store/

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Show threadjwzAug 12, 2024
@timbray Do not let Patreon off the hook on this. This is their decision.
Show threadJeff AtwoodAug 12, 2024
@jwz @timbray I can't see how "stop having an iOS app" is letting them off the hook?
Show threadjwzAug 12, 2024
@codinghorror @timbray Patreon decided that not having an iOS app was so unacceptable that they're fucking over their customers instead. This is as much Patreon behaving badly as it is Apple behaving badly.
Show threadJeff AtwoodAug 12, 2024
@jwz @timbray how many bigcos intentionally forgo an iOS app, though? Like who could you point to that has done this before?
Show threadTim BrayAug 12, 2024
@codinghorror @jwz Unusual, yeah, but for 30% of gross income? Unusual measures might be on the table.
Show threadjwz
@timbray @codinghorror Is that 30% costing Patreon anything? They're just going to pass that cost on to creators, who will now earn 30% less depending on how people sign up.
Aug 12, 2024 at 7:28pmWeb
Show threadBoyd Stephen Smith Jr.Aug 12, 2024

@jwz @timbray @codinghorror I was really hoping cryptocurrency would have freed us from having %age based middlemen siphoning off my earnings that I want to direct at creators. Instead, even the "best" cryptocurrency just completely fails at being a good way to transfer my resources to someone else digitally. :(

#ChokepointCapitalism (from Apple and Google, but ALSO Valve and Patreon) is driving everyone towards #enshittification and #TechnoFudalism and I hate it. :(