Mozilla really needs to reconsider this whole AI generated alt text endeavor.
@cameron seriously, this is why I was so pissed at @piatpod's misunderstanding of AI on Scathing the other day. They insisted that people who were against it are somehow making it harder for the disadvantaged, but it doesn't make anything easier, it makes *everything* worse for people who already have a hard enough time, whether that's terrible alt text or getting you in trouble with the law for incorrect legal stuff. </rage>
@cameron @piatpod (and all while creating a *massive* environmental cost, which the AI people never seem to mention when they insist that it's helping people and not just making the internet even more full of misinformation than it already was)
@sam @cameron @piatpod The Firefox AI tools work locally on your device.

Guck mal @kc, dieses Beispiel von komplett falschem Alt-Text durch KI passt zu Deinen Tests mit automatisierten Bildbeschreibungen von neulich.

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@cameron oh no. A perfect AI poisoning tool. Garbage training data, garbage results. Everyone using it will poison future crawlers.
@cameron well… I'd still take an endeavor that isn't state-of-the-art quality but has this UI that very clearly sets expectations and directly encourages manual checking and editing of the results over the typical megacorp endeavor that's really bad in terms of privacy, energy impact, and psychological manipulation (pretending to have some superintelligence)
@valpackett this current incarnation where it's only used in the alt text editing dialog isn't as harmful, but the stated goal of Mozilla is to start automatically inserting these descriptions onto images for people using screen readers. In that context, the user has no way to evaluate if the results are valid or not.
@cameron they all do. I did a little search yesterday just to confirm something I already was pretty certain about. I did not require naive middle school level lessons on what book burning was and notable occasions when it has occurred. I only wanted confirmation that Heinrich Heine said the thing about burning books and later burning people. So damned intrusive. And no apparent way to opt out. Time to change search engines fully.
@cameron well it got something right. It is a close-up!

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It's a great real example of #ai being used for #accessibility

After all, who amongst us _hasn't_ mistaken a microphone for a person?

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Just more ai bollocks
@cameron They should. Unfortunately they are too busy counting money from their investors to care about how terrible AI is, so they are adding more AI into firefox instead.
@enigmatico @cameron Mozilla is a sinking ship tbh, they're vaporizing any trust even their most loyal users have for them, and they aren't going to do anything about that.
@cameron Using “#AI” to generate AltText is nothing but a big “Fuck You and stop bothering me.” It’s an effective way to drown useful AltText in a sea of shit.
Just like most cases where genuine effort is replaced by “AI”.
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I didn't even know Mozilla did this
@cameron thank you for your ACCURATE alt text