Randahl FinkAug 3, 2024

On all the Mastodon statistics sites, Mastodon is bleeding active users.

Examples:

Picture 1: https://mastodon.fediverse.observer/stats

Picture 2: https://fedidb.org/software/mastodon

I suspect this is due to Mark Zuckerberg embracing the ideas of the Fediverse and giving every Instagram user a Threads account that he controls.

Mastodon performs better, is more open, has better app choice, and will never have ads. Threads has critical mass.

The world will be far better if Mastodon wins, but right now Mastodon is losing.

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Show threadJohan PaulAug 3, 2024

@randahl Mastodon has also some serious issues. Like depending on the instance, you may or may not see all the replies to a thread.

That's a massive oversight.

Show threadMartijn VosAug 3, 2024

@kypeli @randahl

But will moving to Threads get you all responses? Or just those from your own instance, and it pays to be on a big instance?

Show threadJohan PaulAug 3, 2024

@mcv @randahl I am not sure if I understand you completely.

But what I mainly meant is that if you stay inside the Threads ecosystem of messages, you definitely get all the replies.

As for two-way Fediverse integration from Threads, I don't know. I am not eligible for the Fediverse integration yet.

Show threadMartijn Vos

@kypeli @randahl

But wasn't Fediverse integration the whole point of Threads? It's basically just a big for-profit fedi instance, isn't it?

The big problem is that you don't always see all responses from other instances, and that problem is worse if you're on a small instance, and somewhat mitigated when you're on a large one.

Although from my perspective (from Friendica), the Fediverse seems to work quite well.

Aug 3, 2024 at 7:12amWeb
Show threadJohan PaulAug 3, 2024

@mcv @randahl Of course I cannot go inside Marc's head, but somehow I doubt the point of Threads was the integration to Fediverse. More of a necessary evil since he is using the ActivityPub protocol they'll just do it anyway.

If I had to guess, the point was to get people from Twitter and make a better experience so they can show ads.

Show threadJohan PaulAug 3, 2024
@mcv @randahl And what you said about mitigating the issue by being on large instance speaks about the core issue of the Fediverse; for it to work and be truly open and democratic (?) it shouldn't matter on what kind or sized instance you are on.