@gwensnyder @geoglyphentropy this reminds me of a conversation I had with some more conservative friends of mine. We were camping, just hanging out and having fun, and one of them brought up trans rights for some reason. So I just asked why any of them even cared, because it didn’t actually affect them at all. And they got all upset and offended and tried to say the problem was that trans people keep bringing it up. So I pointed out that there were no trans people in our group, and they themselves just brought it up out of nowhere for no obvious reason, and again: why do they even care?
It was honestly the least welcome I’ve ever been made to feel with that group, with whom I’ve had very good and productive discussions on other topics like gun control and immigration. No other way to describe it than that they are just being *weird*, and do not like that being pointed out.