Thread: the spread of agriculture and the rise of the state.

You have probably heard some variation of this argument:

“Humans are bad in some way—violent, rapacious, hierarchical, etc—because bad social structures outcompete good social structures.”

Violent societies outfight and conquer peaceful societies. Agricultural societies outbreed and swamp non-agricultural societies. Hierarchical societies mobilize more labor and resources and bludgeon egalitarian societies. It’s a sort of folk-Game Theory argument that’s quite popular in certain misanthropic circles, especially among people who enjoy feeling holier-than-thou without explicitly resorting to racist myths or social Darwinism.

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Consider in particular Jared Diamond’s argument that agriculture was “the worst mistake in the history of the human race.”

“As population densities of hunter-gatherers slowly rose at the end of the ice ages, bands had to choose between feeding more mouths by taking the first steps toward agriculture, or else finding ways to limit growth. Some bands chose the former solution, unable to anticipate the evils of farming, and seduced by the transient abundance they enjoyed until population growth caught up with increased food production. Such bands outbred and then drove off or killed the bands that chose to remain hunter-gatherers, because a hundred malnourished farmers can still outfight one healthy hunter. It's not that hunter-gatherers abandoned their lifestyle, but that those sensible enough not to abandon it were forced out of all areas except the ones farmers didn't want.”

A variation on this is Stephen Hawkings’ warning about meeting alien species: “If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn’t turn out very well for the Native Americans.”

https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/the-worst-mistake-in-the-history-of-the-human-race

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The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race

The advent of agriculture was a watershed moment for the human race. It may also have been our greatest blunder.

Discover Magazine

In response to this claim, let’s take a look back to the spread of agriculture into Europe starting about 9,000 years ago. Most of Western Europe was, at that time, populated by a community that geneticists have creatively dubbed “Western Hunter Gatherers.” These people—dark skinned and light-eyed—hunted and fished and foraged, preferring woodlands and the edges of wetlands and bodies of water.

Archeologists wondered for a long time if agriculture spread by adoption—if these foragers took up farming. But, thanks to genetic studies, we now know that agriculture spread into Europe mostly by migration as early farmers from Anatolia migrated first into what is now Greece and then into the rest of the continent.

These Neolithic farmers brought with them cereal crops, like wheat, and domesticated animals, like cattle, that had originated in the ancient Near East. They resembled modern Sardinians, the modern community with the highest percentage of these Neolithic farmers among their ancestors.

(Basically, if you have ancestors from Europe, your ancestors almost certainly included people from both of these foragers and these farmers.)

These two communities, rather than clashing, co-existed with each other throughout Europe for thousands of years. They sometimes interbred, but for the most part they left each other alone, each preferring very different environments.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/ancient-face-cheddar-man-reconstructed-dna-spd

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Britain's Dark-Skinned, Blue-Eyed Ancestor Explained

Thanks to technological advances, scientists can see ancient DNA in new detail.

At the Blätterhöhle cave in what is now Germany, researchers found the remains of three different ancient communities.

The first were hunter-gatherers, based on both their genomes and the stable isotopes in their teeth and bones, which revealed a diet of wild game. The second group also belonged to the same genetic population as the first, but ate a diet heavy in freshwater fish. And the third were agriculturalists, descended primarily from those Anatolian farmers but with some hunter-gatherer ancestors as well. This last group ate a diet heavy in domesticated animals.

So three very different communities, with different but overlapping ancestries and very different ways of life, lived side-by-side, sometimes intermarrying, and using the same cave to bury their dead. And, based on radiocarbon dating, they continued to do so for 2,000 years after the arrival of agriculture.

It’s hard to square 2,000 years of co-existence with Diamond’s Just So story about the inexorable and mechanical expansion of farming at the expense of hunter-gatherers.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257648697_2000_Years_of_Parallel_Societies_in_Stone_Age_Central_Europe

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In Britain, agriculture arrived about 6,000 years ago with those Neolithic farmers. As at Blätterhöhle, they intermarried with the local hunter-gatherers, eventually absorbing that community.

But, several centuries after agriculture arrived, the evidence for farming starts to drop off in the archeological record and doesn’t reappear for almost another thousand years. Chris Stevens and Dorian Fuller argued in the journal Antiquity in 2012 (sorry, no full text link) that “cereal cultivation was abandoned throughout many parts of the British Isles in favour of increased reliance on pastoralism and wild resources during the Middle to Late Neolithic.”

People seem to have abandoned the growing of crops like wheat in favor of gathering wild hazelnuts, the shells of which show up in large quantities at sites throughout this period, and herding domesticated animals. Stevens and Fuller note that this period also coincides with population decline, which they suggest was driven by a worsening climate but which I wonder might not have been a product of the plague (genetic evidence for which shows up all across Europe around this time).

But the authors also note that this is the period during which monumental stone architecture, like Stonehenge, was constructed. So clearly the people of Britain were still able to coordinate and mobilize for massively complex undertakings, even if they had abandoned agriculture for a long while. It’s hard to square a thousand-year abandonment of agriculture by a sophisticated and energetic society with a teleological story about agriculture’s inevitable advance and structural advantages over foraging.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/abs/did-neolithic-farming-fail-the-case-for-a-bronze-age-agricultural-revolution-in-the-british-isles/DDC019088534FB8D35AF356D346842E1

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Did Neolithic farming fail? The case for a Bronze Age agricultural revolution in the British Isles | Antiquity | Cambridge Core

Did Neolithic farming fail? The case for a Bronze Age agricultural revolution in the British Isles - Volume 86 Issue 333

Cambridge Core

Stevens and Fuller note a host of other examples in which societies abandoned agriculture but still mobilized labor and resources for monumental projects:

“…the shift away from settled agriculture towards mobile pastoralism, characterising much of peninsular India from the end of the Chalcolithic (1200–900 BC)…”

“In the Gansu region of north-west China, the Dadiwan Neolithic pursued low-level millet cultivation for five centuries or more during the sixth millennium BC, before apparently fading away, with a hiatus of more than five centuries prior to the influx of more permanent millet-pig agriculture associated with the immigrant Yangshao tradition.”

“A further case is seen in the shift from sedentary agriculturalists to nomadic-pastoralism in Late Bronze Age Mongolia, associated both with the appearance of stone monuments and possible climatic change.”

In other words, this was a phenomenon that happened not just in Britain but all over the world. People sometimes adopted agriculture, and then their descendants abandoned it, only for their descendants to pick it back up again. Some farmers lived alongside foragers for *thousands of years* without swamping the foragers.

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Something ELSE really interesting happened in Britain after the abandonment of farming. About 4,500 years ago, a new community began migrating into ancient Britain, bringing with them the Bell Beaker Phenomenon.

The Bell Beaker Phenomenon was a sort of archeological package—distinct artifacts, like the bell-shaped cups that give this phenomenon its name, as well as new burial practices. Stevens and Fuller also note that the time period of their arrival also coincides with the re-emergence of agriculture in Britain.

Archeologists debated for years as to whether this represented a population movement from continental Europe or merely the adoption of a new material culture by Britain’s Neolithic population. We now know from genetic studies that there was indeed a migration into Britain, and that it resulted in a near-total population turnover—some 90% of the subsequent ancestry in Britain derived from these Bronze Age newcomers, rather than the indigenous Neolithic community.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/cambridge-archaeological-journal/article/neolithization-and-population-replacement-in-britain-an-alternative-view/128FA814D030CAFCDE3D2F8AE6CC45A7

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Neolithization and Population Replacement in Britain: An Alternative View | Cambridge Archaeological Journal | Cambridge Core

Neolithization and Population Replacement in Britain: An Alternative View - Volume 32 Issue 3

Cambridge Core

Ah-ha! Perhaps here is our evidence for Diamond’s thesis! Newcomers (re)introducing agriculture and overwhelming the non-farmers with their vastly and implacably larger numbers.

Except that, strangely, there’s no evidence for a violent take-over. No mass graves, no battle sites. The skeletal remains found during this period show no increase in injuries that would indicate interpersonal violence. The newcomers intermarried with the indigenous population. The newcomers began using and maintaining the same sacred sites as the indigenous community, including Stonehenge.

Whatever happened during this period, it seems like it was a lot more complicated than Diamond’s conquest story.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/return-of-the-beaker-folk-rethinking-migration-and-population-change-in-british-prehistory/ABF13307796A0476353FA8D2DA38A21A

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The return of the Beaker folk? Rethinking migration and population change in British prehistory | Antiquity | Cambridge Core

The return of the Beaker folk? Rethinking migration and population change in British prehistory - Volume 95 Issue 384

Cambridge Core

These historical and archeological examples point to a much more flexible, dynamic process than Diamond claimed. There was no one-way process of expansion and conquest. They were not trapped; they did not inevitably conflict with each other because of structural imperatives. People could and did make choices.

So why do we live in a world now in which virtually everyone is fed by agriculture, descended from a global society in which virtually everyone was a farmer?

If we reject Diamond’s teleological argument—that this world of ours was *inevitable*—then I would point a theme from the works of recently-deceased James Scott as a tentative alternative: the state’s obsession with order, predictability, and legibility.

From the earliest states to the present, states have tried to settle foragers and convert them to agriculturalists. Foragers tend to move around, resist authority, and create diverse surpluses. They are, in short, hard to rule, hard to count, hard to conscript, and hard to tax.

But farmers are the opposite: they tend to stay in one spot, close to their crops. They can be associated with fixed locations and discrete units of territory. And they tend to produce—or can be coerced into—regular and uniform surpluses.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/james-c-scott-against-the-grain

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Against the Grain

James C. Scott Against the Grain A Deep History of the Earliest States 2017

The Anarchist Library

In particular, Scott blamed cereal grain agriculture for the rise of states, because cereal grains are uniquely suited for taxation: “visible, divisible, assessable, storable, transportable, and 'rationable.'”

“The fact that cereal grains grow above ground and ripen at roughly the same time makes the job of any would-be taxman that much easier. If the army or the tax officials arrive at the right time, they can cut, thresh, and confiscate the entire harvest in one operation. For a hostile army, cereal grains make a scorched-earth policy that much simpler; they can burn the harvest-ready grain fields and reduce the cultivators to flight or starvation. Better yet, a tax collector or enemy can simply wait until the crop has been threshed and stored and confiscate the entire contents of the granary…”

“The 'aboveground' simultaneous ripening of cereal grains has the inestimable advantage of being legible and assessable by the state tax collectors. These characteristics are what make wheat, barley, rice, millet, and maize the premier political crops. A tax assessor typically classifies fields in terms of soil quality and, knowing the average yield of a particular grain from such soil, is able to estimate a tax. If a year-to-year adjustment is required, fields can be surveyed and crop cuttings taken from a representative patch just before harvest to arrive at an estimated yield for that particular crop year. As we shall see, state officials tried to raise crop yields and taxes in kind by mandating techniques of cultivation…The point is that with cereal grains and soil preparation, the planting, the condition of the crop, and the ultimate yield were more visible and assessable.”

Not only are the products of cereal agriculture suited for taxation, but the farming itself is too. A farmer who works the same plot year year has a fixed “address.” The state knows where they live, what their name is, how much their land should produce each year, and how much it can extract as taxes.

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So I would conclude by proposing this: that the spread and ultimate dominance of agriculture was not some function of agriculture itself, but rather of intentional state violence. Coercing people into being settled, taxable, conscriptable, and *controllable* farmers would also have produced the added benefit of creating a population entirely dependent on a single, easily controlled food supply, rendering us even more docile.

This would explain the transition from agriculture as a flexible option that people sometimes adopted, abandoned, or lived alongside without transforming themselves, into what we live with today—industrial agriculture as the sole source of food for the vast majority of people alive.

This is just a hunch, but one that feels intuitively true. From the Assyrian and Incan Empires to the indigenous reserves of the modern US and Australia, states have always and everywhere been obsessed with settling nomads and transforming foragers into farmers.

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@HeavenlyPossum OK, but haven't you just shifted the Darwinian argument to States vs non-states?
Also, the argument that there were natural forces that drove us to this current situation, and therefore this is "good" is obviously idiotic.

@ThunderDohm

I don’t know how I could have “shifted the Darwinian argument to states vs non-states”

@HeavenlyPossum You showed that agriculture didn't have, in general, conflict and advantage over hunting/gathering. You didn't show the same thing for having a government vs not having a government.

If we all farm because we all have governments that prefer farming, why do we all have governments?

@ThunderDohm

Because the people who run states really like using violence to stay in charge of those states.

@HeavenlyPossum
“Humans are bad in some way—violent, rapacious, hierarchical, etc—because bad social structures outcompete good social structures.”

I don't understand your actual position vs the above statement you were arguing against.

People use violence and they win.

I think that is bad, but mostly true throughout history so far.

@ThunderDohm

I am critical of that statement, which is a summary of arguments I have encountered.

I believe it is a teleological argument, an effort to update old, racialist Social Darwinist ideas about the march of history.

The fact that things *are* a certain way does not tell us that things *must* have been that way.

@HeavenlyPossum I don't know enough early history to rightly know if we only have a few examples of the rise of the State and it's dominance, or if we have many. Or if we have examples of places where centralized power has existed and then died out.

Hopefully if you ever go into as much detail about states as you did about agriculture I will have a chance to learn something.

@ThunderDohm @HeavenlyPossum we have many examples of both. Read "Against the Grain"
@HeavenlyPossum I also think that just because racists use an argument that does not mean that it is wrong. If central organization and state violence has displaced, destroyed or subsumed less organized societies time and again, then we need to understand and respect that in order to defeat it.

@ThunderDohm

I fully agree—I’m just arguing here that certain outcomes, like global state dominance, are not inevitable or unchangeable. States fail and collapse all the time, and they struggled for millennia to defeat and subordinate nonstate peoples. Things could have just as easily gone very differently.

@HeavenlyPossum @ThunderDohm I'd like to feel that is true, but I fear that as states expand to fill territory to (contestable) borders, any reversion would be absorbed by the expansion of a neighbouring state. The stable solution is where all territory is claimed by some state. Even where that state may be unable to actually rule it all, as we see in frontiers like the ungovernable parts of Indonesia and the Philippines, for example
@cliffordheath @HeavenlyPossum I think that technology is a part of this. It increases both the ease and advantages of organizing large groups of people.

@cliffordheath @ThunderDohm

I certainly think that the difference between states prior to ~1500, which were incredibly fragile, and after, when they are much more robust, has to do with their incorporation of most of the globe under state rule.

I think this is why modern states invest so much into maintaining a global state system, propping up failing states and supporting state elites against substate challengers.

But again, that doesn’t mean this outcome was inevitable or that it’s permanent.

@HeavenlyPossum @ThunderDohm In the face of continuous population growth (and transport & communication), I believe it was in fact inevitable. And if so, then no more immoral than that 1+1=2. That which is inescapable is incomparable. Because, to what?

We can and should dream of constructed societies, not because they are achievable, but because they can help achieve improved real outcomes. Even pragmatic realists need help from idealists

@cliffordheath @ThunderDohm

The problem with treating any social outcome as inevitable is that people are socially self-constructing. If everyone simultaneously chose the implausible but very real option of “not being a state,” the state would cease to exist instantaneously. People are fully capable of choosing otherwise than the status quo.

@HeavenlyPossum @ThunderDohm social self-construction is severely limited by biological and environmental construction that is many orders of magnitude greater than any social structures. Social structures are are similarly many times more ancient than any intellectual development that transcends an individual, which is why people vote with the crowd/strong, not the correct. We are physical before biological before social before intellectual. Any future must work within those constraints

@cliffordheath @ThunderDohm

I’m not suggesting that material realities don’t inform social structures, but there is no mechanical one-to-one correspondence and no material determinism. Our uniqueness as a species is our capacity to choose social responses to material conditions. There are no biological or physical conditions that implacably drive coercive state hierarchies.

@HeavenlyPossum @ThunderDohm our individual ability to choose is unquestionable (Sam Harris is weak at philosophy, should stick to neuroscience!), but collectively, I doubt that it has ever been convincingly demonstrated. In fact we have copious, I dare say universal, evidence of the contrary behaviour of collectives.

I believe we can improve, incrementally. Any improvement that relies only on collective intelligence is doomed however

@HeavenlyPossum @ThunderDohm In short, we are not rational beings, but rationalising beings.

"All of us is dumber than any of us"

@cliffordheath @ThunderDohm @HeavenlyPossum I do not think an unavoidable outcome is by definition moral or ethical (I will refrain from commenting on whether this one was inevitable).

There is no inductive step leading to this and the two are orthogonal.
@lispi314 @ThunderDohm @HeavenlyPossum I didn't say it was moral. I said it's not immoral. Individual responses are what counts
@cliffordheath @HeavenlyPossum @ThunderDohm Situations without choice-agency are amoral, for they do not have moral judgement at all.

All person participants with the capacity for moral processing are moral actors however, and the difficulty or impossibility of resisting a situation is irrelevant to the immorality of enabling a detrimental situation.

@lispi314 @ThunderDohm @HeavenlyPossum So temporarily accepting my hypothesis, to contribute to growth in population, transport or communication is immoral. Which is it?

Undesirable situations can occur without any immoral action.

@cliffordheath @HeavenlyPossum @ThunderDohm None of these are inherently dependent on states and they can just as easily contribute to undermining the state.

So none of them.
@lispi314 @ThunderDohm @HeavenlyPossum dodging the point. My hypothesis is that given those three, state hegemony is inevitable
@ThunderDohm Yeah, but the issue would be that states do those because states can. It is not due to any underlying inevitable economical force to which the state is the inevitable outcome. If you have a bigger gun, you don't have to be subservient.
@HeavenlyPossum I am really not trying to antagonize you. I am very sorry if it comes across that way.

@ThunderDohm

Thank you for the clarification!