How much would it be worth to you to have a car that would last 20 years without issue?
@jfslicer If it was a car I liked that entire time, I'd be willing to pay $1,500/year so $30,000.
@badbede interesting. I've been doing the math on how much has been spent on my vehicles over the last twenty years and it comes out to about $3500 a year (not including maintenance, insurance, and taxes).

@jfslicer @badbede I’ve spent about $50k on vehicles over the last 20 years. That’s 8 vehicles, 5 of which I still have.

Since 2016 I’ve averaged $300 a month in maintenance. That’s for 4 cars at a time on average.

So $2500 a year for purchases, and $3600 a year for maintenance. Call it $6K a year to supply up to 4 drivers. $1500 a year per driver.

To the original question, if “without issue” means “no repairs”, I’d spend $100K on such a car (if I had $100K to spend)

@jeffschmitz @badbede Thanks! I'm kinda guessing, but I think the Rivian fits that mold. With a 12 year, 175,000 mile warranty and you only need to rotate the tires every 7500 miles... no oil change or anything like that, it really could go 20 years.

I say, trying to justify my desire to get one... but I also don't have that kind of money.

@jfslicer @badbede I feel the same. I’d love to go electric, but I’m at the other end of the market right now. Gotta see how these things hold up over time
@jeffschmitz @jfslicer @badbede I now have two hybrids (Accord and RAV4). No issues so far -- the Honda is a 2015 and the Toyota is a 2019
@JoeCool @jeffschmitz @badbede I have a 2006 Prius that I got a couple years ago. The hybrid battery died after a year or two and I had it replaced. Green Bean battery does used hybrid batteries for 1/3 the cost of new and gives a life time guarantee as long as you’re still the owner.
@jfslicer @jeffschmitz @badbede that's impressive
@JoeCool @jeffschmitz @badbede what’s really impressive is I got the 2006 Prius in 2022 with about 20k miles on it.
@jfslicer @jeffschmitz @badbede what's the expected lifetime of the Rivian's battery?

@JoeCool @jeffschmitz @badbede Not sure, but found this, not sure if Rivian were part of the sturdy, likely not since the first one hit 100k this year:

“The data showed that most EVs driven close to 100,000 miles still have at least 90 percent of their original range left.” https://www.yahoo.com/tech/researchers-surprising-discovery-lifespan-ev-110000330.html

Here’s a forum discussing it: https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/study-on-ev-battery-lifespan-yields-shocking-positive-results.19275/

Researchers make surprising discovery about lifespan of EV batteries: ‘That was a shock’

The study took real-world data from 15,000 EVs of various makes and models in the U.S.

Yahoo Tech
@jfslicer I used a 2002 Honda Accord as a daily commuter for 16 yrs with only one major issue which was repaired. I was pleased with the practicality but I understand that some folks would uninspired...