Electronic Frontier FoundationJul 26, 2024
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Show threadOld Man in the Shoe
@eff Surprised the EFF stance isn't to get off Twitter entirely.
Jul 26, 2024 at 6:15pmWeb
Show threadel_haych2024Jul 26, 2024
@jenzi @eff it is a popular platform. Doesn't make sense to refrain from using it if it's useful.
Show threadOld Man in the ShoeJul 26, 2024
@el_haych2024 It's not useful, it's a hate site for bigots that is now stealing your content to make a select few people a lot of money.
Show threadel_haych2024Jul 26, 2024
@jenzi yeah and ignorance is bliss
Show threadOld Man in the ShoeJul 26, 2024
@el_haych2024 Not sure what you're trying to say because you've not said it.
Show threadRoni Rolle LaukkarinenJul 26, 2024

@jenzi @el_haych2024

People do not care. I have mostly given up of convincing X users. They say "I know but whatever" and keep using it.

Show threadJoe OrtizJul 26, 2024

@rolle @jenzi @el_haych2024 Plus in addition, some, if not most would happily hand over their financial information over to him.

It's one hell of a addiction and I too have given up convincing.

Show threadokanogen VerminEnemyFromWithinJul 28, 2024
@el_haych2024 @jenzi
Ignorance of racist, white Supremacist, Nazi propaganda is actually bliss. Yes. 💯 agree.
Show threadenoch_exe_incJul 26, 2024
@jenzi @el_haych2024 The same could be said of Reddit. Unfortunately, the sheer size of the platform and lack of alternatives that even come close to its popularity means a lot of people will put up with its bullshÑ–t.
Show threadKonatoJul 26, 2024
@jenzi @el_haych2024 I'm not going to defend twitter, it IS a cesspool, but I never hand any kind of interaction with those people, probably because I don't really have conversations over there in the first place, but it's not like every single post and user is the devil.
Show threadOld Man in the ShoeJul 27, 2024
@konato @el_haych2024 no one said that
Show threadKonatoJul 27, 2024
@jenzi @el_haych2024 "It's not useful, it's a hate site for bigots" really reads like it, just saying.
Show threadOld Man in the ShoeJul 27, 2024
@konato @el_haych2024 you confuse collectively it’s a shit site for nazis. Sorry that offends you.
Show threadKonatoJul 27, 2024
@jenzi @el_haych2024 No offense :)
Show threadJackJul 27, 2024
@jenzi @el_haych2024 I used to be on team "Twitter is still relevant unfortunately so whatever" but holy shit the hate and misinfo has gotten so bad recently I really am encouraging as many people as possible to jump ship. The only reason I have stayed is for local transit and emergency updates from municipal accounts.
Show threadokanogen VerminEnemyFromWithinJul 28, 2024
@el_haych2024 @jenzi @eff
Popular with racists, White Supremacists, and Nazis....
Show threadkkellerJul 26, 2024
@jenzi @eff the EFF may realize that, while that's certainly the best strategy, not everyone is willing to take that step yet.
Show threadBjarneJul 26, 2024
@jenzi @eff I would understand and kinda hope if they are the last ones to leave the ship. Their posts have way bigger use on there than here. This being on top of mastodon.social is more or less meaningless.
Show threadOld Man in the ShoeJul 26, 2024
@bjarne Over there they'd get banned for this. I'm suspended for calling a right wing personality a Nazi.
Show threadBjarneJul 26, 2024
@jenzi They are doing that though. The comments on this post have a completely different sentiment over there and i think a lot more people consider actually deleting their account from it. Just think its not the right call to leave just yet.
Show threadOld Man in the ShoeJul 26, 2024
@bjarne I agree to not leave, raise the alarm - for sure. The EFF should always be one of the last to leave the platform(s) in this regard.
Show threaddraeathJul 26, 2024

@jenzi @eff perfect is the enemy of good.

Ideally the platform would die off sooner rather than later, but in the meantime...

Show threadOld Man in the ShoeJul 26, 2024
@draeath That saying doesn't apply here, that's about getting work done, not protecting people from what Twitter has become and stands for.
Show threadLukefromDCJul 27, 2024
@draeath @jenzi @eff That ship might not go down without taking a few more well-aimed torpedoes