We need to talk about the classism of #Moderate #liberals.

Oh, the moderate liberal. There is a profound lack of empathy amongst what we would call the mainstream of the #DemocraticParty.

So, here's the thing. You want everyone to have an #EV. Well, an #ElectricVehicle requires charging. That pretty much requires a garage.

What about #solar? Well, if you are renting, you can't install solar panels. Nor does the #landlord have any incentives to ever install them.

Banning #plastic bags? A tax on poor people who traditionally got multiple uses out of every single plastic grocery bag.

Time and time again you see the #Democratic party, often along with #MiddleClass and #UpperClass #leftists and #progressives argue in favor of policies without a hint of empathy for the lived day to day reality of people who are #poor, #InnerCity or #rural.

Can you really be surprised that #Newsom decided to attack #homeless encampments? In his worldview, homelessness is a defect of the system, not an inherent product of it.

Fewer roads, fewer cars. Sure, but it sounds frightening when you have to drive to a dockyard that's two miles from a transit station.

The reason that a lot of #poor people in the US view the #Democrats as traitors is because they have traditionally _been_ class traitors.

The loudest progressive voices are usually the most privileged voices. So, they just sound like more class traitors without a moment of reflection on the actual lives of actual working people.

@AeonCypher " That pretty much requires a garage." It does not. I am using an EV with no Garage in a dense city. There are concepts like FastCharging.

@lindworm

Yes. You can theoretically spend time at a fast charger to make it work.

@AeonCypher I don't spend time at a FastCharger. I integrated that into my life. Whenever I shop, whenever I need a parking space in the city (slow charger), whenever I am at Work, my car charges. It's just different than the used "I fill my car with dinosaurs" way.

And that is why you can't compare it when you never experienced it. Quiet the contrary, I am never in the fear to not have enough. And on long distance travel, I need a break earlier than my car. Its ready before I am.

@lindworm

This map may as well be a map of home values. Guess where the poorer people live.

I _believe_ that there is lifestyle adaptation that makes this feasible.

I am unconvinced this adaptation is reasonable from people in lower income brackets.

Edit: there's no comprehensive map of gas stations, but it's pretty evenly distributed throughout the city.

@AeonCypher I am not living in america, as I know that system, you are always fucked as an average to poor income. Can't say anything about that. I only know, when infrastructure is planed well, the charging is not the problem at all.

If you live in selfish capitalist land everything is a chore.

@AeonCypher But when I follow @TechConnectify right. Charging should not be that problem in america as well. Sry I am from blessed europe πŸ™‚

@lindworm Fair enough.

A lot of this post probably hits differently in other countries.

@AeonCypher I can tell you, we have the exact same discussion (usually by people who want to keep the dinosaur car, because they are used to it). I belive you will not get the poor class to change as fast as the middle or upper class. So it's natural to concentrate on those more. Eventually these gains also will help the poor in the long run. But I see your point. Complicated matter in every country.

@lindworm

The main point is that the left with power, even when they actually make positive policies, often does it in a way that leaves our or sometimes even burdens the poor.

@AeonCypher true, but isn't that the nature of the beast? Ok with your social care system it is for sure even a bigger problem than I can imagine. This is also true for the republicans, I'd belief. For anyone in power.
Bigger VAT, hits the poor
Higher gasoline prices, inflation and so on. The poor will feel everything first. Thats why the only solution, can only be a system that supports the poor with money that is taken by the wealthy.

@lindworm

I mean, if they cared they'd bother to at least consider the effects.

As I point out in another post. They are often more focused on polemics than on good policy, so their policies are often ill conceived and impact the least privileged the most.

That's what I'm complaining about.