Kai Mast
Irene ZhangI wrote a blog post about what it is like being #womenintech within the framework of #moralphilosophy and ethics. #consistencyforthewin https://irenezhang.net/blog/2024/07/24/misogyny.html
Obligatory Good Place reference: The state of being #womenintech #moralphilosophy #consistencyforthewin
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#womenintech #moralphilosophy #consistencyforthewin
#womenintech #moralphilosophy #consistencyforthewin
Omar Antolín@irene GitHub is now asking people if they want to contribute to misogyny... 🙃 But seriously, it's great that you created this repo and I hope it takes off.
Edwin Young@irene this is very well put. Sorry you had to write it
Vish@irene If someone wants to anonymize their PRs, they can use
GitMask (https://github.com/AnalogJ/gitmask)
GitMask (https://github.com/AnalogJ/gitmask)
Dan Stowell@irene I really have to take my hat off to the "misogyny issue tracker". Well played!
Martijn Faassen has moved@irene
Not a negative experience but one that still stands out to me:
Martijn Faassen (@[email protected])
I ran a coding dojo once where I had lost everyone with a kata I thought up about implementing a programming language. The hotshot young male dev. Some other guys and a woman dev. Except for one person. She followed it all the way, even though she was a recent hire as a junior dev. She was about as far from the western stereotype of a software dev you can imagine. She had brown skin. She was pregnant. She had a headscarf on. This is who we lose to software development because of our biases.
This experience made me realize that only feminists can advise women grad students, manage women, etc because harassment will inevitably happen and if you aren’t prepared for it, you aren’t prepared to work with women. #womenintech #moralphilosophy #consistencyforthewin
Irenes (many)@irene that's certainly how we feel (we're not in academia but we think it's true in lots of contexts)
sean dra paul@irene i want my bosses feminist but I also want them to be *vocal* feminists because it does not make a difference to me if my boss is uninformed or feminist while watching me struggle and staying silent
yomimono, still on land@irene Thank you for this blog post. I appreciate your source citation and synthesis here, as someone with lived experience but not much scholarship on the subject.
I’m shocked that it took me this long to discover your demikernel work, which is super cool and relevant to my interests.
bhakti@irene this is awesome. Thank you for sharing :)
B MillerFrom hamburger joint to newsroom to IT shop in the 20th Century -- I could write an appalling book. It was all normalized. "Housewives" were taking men's jobs and there was a price to pay.
It's ironic that IT is the industry with such a backwards reputation, because coding is such a natural job for women. A recipe is practically COBOL. Knitting instructions are a machine language with sequencing, branching and looping. Coding requires attention to detail and infinite patience, but not brute strength.
Thanks for fighting the good fight.
Andrea Magnorsky 😹 🦙
Cat Hicks@irene wow. Thank you.
Jules 🍺@irene that was a very painful read, makes me ashamed, I teach in codebar and it always annoyes me how the women I meet there have usually been dissuaded or prevented from doing what they were interested in when they were younger.
@julesbl that makes you a better person than most men. Men should be ashamed because society has made it ok for them to behave this way. But men can do better and be an ally once they see it, instead of being angry, which is the common reaction.
e. hashman 🇵🇸@irene this brings to mind https://geekfeminism.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline_of_incidents though the wiki was archived and has not been active for a number of years
Timeline of incidents
This is a timeline of sexist incidents in geek communities including: Technology industry Free and open source software Gaming Comic Book Fandom Science Fiction Fandom Universities ... and more See Timeline of geek feminism for the development of geek feminism itself. (Mary Gardiner explains the reason for this list in Why we document, originally on the Geek Feminism blog.) The Great Breen Boondoggle: Walter Breen excluded from Worldcon as he was judged (correctly) to pose a threat to...