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#KamalaHarrisForPresident

@GottaLaff I'm just a foreign observer and from a European leftist perspective, Ms. Harris is conservative as fuck, but of course much better for everyone.
But what I really love is the class meme development. Including the epic birth of "we're not going back". Hollywood worthy shit that I was dramaturgically socialized with for fifty years. β˜ΊοΈπŸ‘

@danimo Really? Harris? "Conservative as fuck"?

#Toodles

@GottaLaff @danimo the only way I could see it being accurate is in a "global definitions of left wing and right wing" being mapped to the American specific political terms of "liberal" and "conservative."

Globally speaking the Democratic Party is dominated by relatively pro market, anti state ownership forces. Mainstream Republicans and Democrats agree in kind on these points and fight about the degree. Republicans want the "government small enough to drown in a bathtub" and Democrats want it a bit bigger than that. So they're both "right wing" in a global political sense. "Far right" Republicans and "Center Right" Democrats. Like, even Bernie and AOC aren't agitating for nationalization of the utilities including telephony and Internet.

Of course that's ignoring the Trump factor in all this which has thrown most of that out the window and replaced it with "whatever Orange Julius wants today" defining Republican politics currently.

@wdhughes

in my framing, these things can be derived from Mrs Harris's handling of the death penalty and her opposition to prison time reductions and bragging about convictions of marijuana users. even though this is probably slightly distorted cherrypicking from abroad, it's enough for me to have personal concerns.
But of course anything is better than a blatant fascist, like Trump.

( btw @GottaLaff blocked me after my first comment, which I guess makes her question a rhetorical one. lol)

@danimo none of us should act like we just fell out of a coconut tree. #Harris exists in a context of all that has come before. She's a politician who has had to run for election to specific offices in specific regions with specific constituencies who care about specific issues.

Electoral politics is the art of finding the best mix of your personal views and the views of your constituents. This are never going to mesh 100%. A good politician is ready to follow the will of their people but also attempt to persuade those people to another course.

In the 80s and 90s the big scary thing the media were forcing down our throats were violent crime and drug crime, so Harris focused on those things.

Hell, #Obama was against #gaymarriage until he was for it. I fully expect the Vice President to have updated her stances on a host of issues as compared to the late 20th century.

#HarrisForPresident #Harris2024

@wdhughes
I'm really impressed by how fluidly the Harris quotes flow into a substantive dialogue. and I've written elsewhere that I can feel the Obama-like vibe of departure all the way across the pond.
until recently, the prospect of a Trump (who would surely leave us here alone with Putin's fantasies of conquest) wasn't exactly the best move for well-being. so all the best from me to Mrs Harris' campaign.
even if I don't consider her to be on the left by my standards.πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

@wdhughes @danimo doesn't change the fact that there is no "#left" and even #BernieSanders & #AOC would be barely #socdem-center in Europe...

https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/112843279296156221

Kevin Karhan :verified: (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] basically @[email protected] is sadly correct. in tems of #politicalSpectrum the #USA merely have right (#FDP = #DEMs) and #christofacist (#AfD = #GOP / #NSAdD = #MAGA) as options...!

Infosec.Space
@kkarhan @danimo we just gotta keep chipping away. The #ColdWar was very effective at making people afraid of anything #anticapitalist and it went from the late 40s to the late 80s so that's a lot of inertia to overcome.

@wdhughes @danimo @GottaLaff it's not about being "#AntiCapitalist" but like very #based thinks like mandatory #healthcare and #PaidSickLeave...

Shit that #Germany has since the 1890s (!!!) and was specifically enacted to curb the rise of #SocDems by taking away their popular demands...
https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/112843501813018886

Don"t even get me started on like a mandatiry #LivingMinimumWage that gets adjusted per #inflation!

Kevin Karhan :verified: (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] granted, that's not a hard choice to make... https://mastodon.social/@GottaLaff/112843292475957356 Kinda like eating some not-tasty but safe food (DEMs) vs. raw chicken without refidgeration in texan heat with shards of glass that gets freshly battered in fentanyl and deep fried upon order (GOP)... So OFC literally everyone at the DEMs is better - even if they'd chose a coyote suffering late-stage rabies that would be better than Trump, because this is a simple decision to make!

Infosec.Space

@kkarhan @danimo what I'm hoping is that we're about to be able to catch our breath and get out of white knuckle survival mode we've been in since #HillaryClinton lost in 2016.

No one has been excited about a #Democratic #Presidential #nominee since Mrs Clinton and possibly the majority of potential voters not since #Obama. I know Clinton didn't excite me mostly because she felt forced on us.

#Harris is exciting! She's not from a dynasty. She worked hard her whole career. She's connected to the people in a way that so many of our previous choices haven't been.

I had to #vote for Clinton in 2016. I had to vote for Biden in 2020. I WANT to #voteHarris in #November.

#USPol #2024 #election