malcolm
Sammy Arson Fox :3"This wouldn't have happened on Linux" I say smugly, as I copy and paste a command from a 2008 forum post, three hours into trying to get my fucking WiFi working on Arch.
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🌸 lily 🏳️⚧️ 
θΔ ⋐ & ∞@theresnotime this is a good thing
Amps@theresnotime
I was *gonna* make a joke about this but honestly this post is funny enough that I don't have to. Good job!
I was *gonna* make a joke about this but honestly this post is funny enough that I don't have to. Good job!
Dawn Tåke 🌙 
@theresnotime
I thought about bringing my Mint computer to work today. Thankfully staff computers are working.
I thought about bringing my Mint computer to work today. Thankfully staff computers are working.
Alliecat@theresnotime People run Arch because they enjoy that sort of thing. Run a modern Ubuntu derivative and it's almost disappointing how little manual configuration things take anymore.
vascorsd@alliecat @theresnotime until something is extremely buggy because of all the weird custom kernel patches or need unofficial proprietary ppas with things to make it work ok...
But yeah, I agree, for most people it can just work nowadays and that is a good thing 😎
Blockhead@vascorsd @alliecat @theresnotime but that's the thing - if something is buggy on other OS', you can't do sht about it.
✧✦Catherine✦✧@untrue @vascorsd @alliecat @theresnotime i've made multiple binary patches because proprietary software on either Windows or Linux didn't do what I want
NVIDIA drivers, random vendor stuff, whatever
it's a question of skill
MicroBlog Castellano@alliecat @theresnotime Well, I had trouble configuring bluetooth on a modern ubuntu. I use bluetooth to send the wifi password from my cellphone to a new computer/OS.
ɩɐɥɔɐɿɐɯ@alliecat @theresnotime I basically came here to say this. I haven't had to work hard for anything in Linux in many many years. Things are getting very good. Especially with a decent WM/DE on board.
I recently switched from Mate to KDE/Plasma 5, and I couldn't be happier with it. I made the switch (permanently) from Win10 to Linux about six months ago or so, and while I've been USING Linux for a very long time, this is the first time it's been my daily driver. I don't think I'll ever make the switch back. Windows is glossy and shiny, but it's like a dollar-store-candy coating on a turd. Linux is (mostly) good candy spackled in a thin layer of turd in some places. X3
Benjamin@theresnotime according to http://blog.fefe.de/?ts=9864a262 it literally HAS happened exactly the same on Linux, so...
khaleer_art@theresnotime Did it worked? Such ancient knowledge always work.
klausfiend has moved@theresnotime Folks who use an OS where "curl | bash" is a standard installation pattern live in glass houses.
... but the 360° views are tough to beat!
mathieui@theresnotime one additional proof that this could not have happened on linux!
Néstor 🇵🇸@theresnotime Linux users who cares about updates screwing their machines uses immutable oses and/or cow filesystems.
Piko Starsider 
@theresnotime This wouldn't have happened with Linux using only open source software, at least with major distros. Because there's plenty of testing for distro and kernel releases, and open source software is readily available to be tested with it. CrowdStrike is not open source.
I don't think Arch is a good fit for a production server though. Or for an average user for that matter. (disclaimer: I use arch btw)
Ives@starsider @theresnotime Did you hear about that xz hack that planted a backdoor in sshd earlier this year?
@ives @theresnotime Yes, but I was talking about making machines crash at boot taking down a massive amount of servers.
The XZ hack is exceptional because it can't be pulled off twice. Distributions have put measures in place to avoid a similar incident.
stux⚡️
Paul.@theresnotime Reminds me of looong ago (Redhat 5.2 long ago, on floppies) where it took me 2 weeks to get the commands in place to connect to the internet via ISDN-2... It did work after that! (This RHL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Linux, not the new RHEL Enterprise edition.)
(Is WIFI working now?)
(Is WIFI working now?)
Alyssa Voronin@theresnotime Mint fully supports my video card, but by default, does not initialize it on boot, instead hard locking the system.
Yes, there's a way to fix this, which I will get around to implementing.....eventually.
Morgan ⚧️@TranshumanBlues @theresnotime i3 or X or Nvidia proprietary drivers have a problem of not letting the screen turn back on sometimes and I have to shut the computer off w the power key to turn it back on. Sway on Wayland doesn't work with Nvidia proprietary drivers. Nouveau drivers don't recognize the monitor directly plugged into the GPU when I try to run any window manager.
I love Linux but widespread usage of Linux wouldn't have helped today lmao, infrastructure would just break every day
@raphaelmorgan @theresnotime Oh, absolutely. Sometimes (often) people are too quick to blame the OS.
Jak2k 🏳️🌈@theresnotime
Just use network manager… Arch is very easy.
Just use network manager… Arch is very easy.
David, a Bostonian in Tokyo.Don't be so smug: the original Internet worm, the Morris worm, ran on Unixes.
F00F the elusive@theresnotime can’t receive botched automatic updates if you can’t connect to the internet!
James BrittEven better:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41005936
"Crowdstrike did this to our production linux fleet back on April 19th, and I've been dying to rant about it."
Aaron 🍞🏳️🌈 
@theresnotime My "reply guy" here, but it did. https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/crowdstrike-freezing-rockylinux-after-9-4-upgrade/14041
Crowdstrike - freezing RockyLinux After 9.4 upgrade
Crowdstrike users may see their servers freezing after upgrading to RockyLinux 9.4. Crowdstrike support is aware of that problem (due to a kernel bug same as https://supportportal.crowdstrike.com/s/article/Linux-Sensor-in-user-mode-may-fail-on-specific-6-x-kernel-versions).
Mahid Sheikh@theresnotime just yesterday I had to deal with some crazy external monitor issues that could only be resolved by using an HDMI cable to get Plasma to send a proper signal through Displayport
If I had a nickel for every time that particular issue happened, I'd have 2 nickels
Kenneth@theresnotime This is why, in my mild distro hopping, I tossed Arch promptly in the bin. And I’d been in the mood for learning curve, too! For hurting myself on a steep one, even!
Gulli@theresnotime but after you finally fixed it, it will never stop working. Its the opposit in Windows. Driverinstallation for your wifi is fast, but it will also break soon. There is a break even after some time of usage.
agatha 
@theresnotime get my fucking [thing] to work on arch is always a mood
Élana@theresnotime I feel targeted /j
JohnF@theresnotime true except for me it was bluetooth... again.
Alon@theresnotime No lie detected.
Flaky@theresnotime meanwhile on my end the wifi driver on Linux will just shit itself and panic, resulting in a non-recoverable disconnection (and even a hang on shutdown which means using the reset button a lot)
Laura Orchid@theresnotime this is somewhat relatable :)
Robin@theresnotime It doesn’t really matter which operating systems are vulnerable to this specific bug. It doesn’t expose some inherent flaw in Windows. Nobody’s switching platforms over this.
What matters is that it’s fixable. Most drivers can, and should run in user space.
People have been pushing for that for years, this incident only highlights the necessity.
AutisticMumTo3@theresnotime
Linux may not be dependent on this big company but it has other issues like your comment jokingly pointed out. You don't have readily available firmware to run your devices, for example. Not many games on Steam will be for Linux I suspect.
Linux may not be dependent on this big company but it has other issues like your comment jokingly pointed out. You don't have readily available firmware to run your devices, for example. Not many games on Steam will be for Linux I suspect.
Alaric Snell-Pym@theresnotime curl | bash # then enter your password when sudo prompts you for it
electrical tape@theresnotime iwd works pretty well for me but iwctl only runs as root. remember to install your drivers!