"This wouldn't have happened on Linux" I say smugly, as I copy and paste a command from a 2008 forum post, three hours into trying to get my fucking WiFi working on Arch.

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@theresnotime People run Arch because they enjoy that sort of thing. Run a modern Ubuntu derivative and it's almost disappointing how little manual configuration things take anymore.

@alliecat @theresnotime until something is extremely buggy because of all the weird custom kernel patches or need unofficial proprietary ppas with things to make it work ok...

But yeah, I agree, for most people it can just work nowadays and that is a good thing 😎

@vascorsd @alliecat @theresnotime but that's the thing - if something is buggy on other OS', you can't do sht about it.

@untrue @vascorsd @alliecat @theresnotime i've made multiple binary patches because proprietary software on either Windows or Linux didn't do what I want

NVIDIA drivers, random vendor stuff, whatever

it's a question of skill

@alliecat @theresnotime Well, I had trouble configuring bluetooth on a modern ubuntu. I use bluetooth to send the wifi password from my cellphone to a new computer/OS.

@alliecat @theresnotime I basically came here to say this. I haven't had to work hard for anything in Linux in many many years. Things are getting very good. Especially with a decent WM/DE on board.

I recently switched from Mate to KDE/Plasma 5, and I couldn't be happier with it. I made the switch (permanently) from Win10 to Linux about six months ago or so, and while I've been USING Linux for a very long time, this is the first time it's been my daily driver. I don't think I'll ever make the switch back. Windows is glossy and shiny, but it's like a dollar-store-candy coating on a turd. Linux is (mostly) good candy spackled in a thin layer of turd in some places. X3