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Just for the record. This #fashion trend of #baggy #clothes is ignorant and hostile. We live in a time where money is tight for everyone and we're all conscious of the damage that #fastfashion does to our planet and yet designers collectively decided that they would come together to waste fabric. Who is that helping? Jeans that drag along the floor help no one. They just show you don't value shit. Make them make clothes that fit people properly and that last fucking ages. Can be washed and worn for years. Don't be okay with them destroying the planet so they can make enough denim to make your jeans look like they fit terribly!
Jul 16, 2024 at 8:03pmWeb
Show threadCategorySoloJul 17, 2024

@sabreW4K3 I'll agree with you on fast fashion, that is a plague. But baggy clothing? No it's a good thing. Air flow between you and your clothes for regulating body temperature is great. And not everyone wants tight clothing. I have been wearing baggy clothes for over 20 years, and always feel better in them. Reflecting what I want about my self image is an undeniable positive to my mental health, compared to how horrible I feel when I have to wear tights clothes for the few formal events I attend. I wear baggy trousers, and a good pair will last me years.

Throwing clothes away every 3 months with changing trends? Bad. Baggy clothes? Not a problem at all - and judging how people want to express themselves to the world isn't cool.

Show threadDunbar's NumberJul 17, 2024

@category let me preface my retort with, I wholeheartedly believe that personal comfort trumps everything, so please don't take my comments to be a "EVERYBODY HAS TO WEAR SKIN TIGHT LEOTARDS!!! 11" type comment.

But what I'm on about in general is that there's been tremendous advances in fabric and design whereby we have fabrics that are able to dissipate heat and also act as a thermal insulator at the same time.

Perhaps once upon a time, there was a good reason for baggy, but not any more. To design baggy by default, there's at least one person without the means to buy their own clothes that we clothe with the excess fabric.

We have the opportunity to design clothes that use just enough fabric while respecting personal fit preferences. If we're honest, we have the means to walk into a shop, have a machine do a full body scan and then cut and sew the fabric on site to provide your jeans that you can wear for 4 years straight.

Okay, maybe that was a little far, but you get what I mean. As a culture, baggy is just wasteful, because the excess fabric can be used to ensure additional people are kept clothed.

Show threadCategorySoloJul 17, 2024

@sabreW4K3 I get that, but I will still disagree. Its not a problem of resources scarcity. If 10 people purchased more fitted clothes instead of baggy clothes, that excess material wouldn't make a pair of trousers for a poor person. It'd make an 11th pair for ClothesInc™ to sell.

Availability of materials isn't a problem - clothing not being provided to the poor is a societal issue.

In fact, that's one way "fast fashion" could help - if last month's clothes went into a Samaritans clothing bin instead of landfill, it would do a better job clothing someone in need than buying long-lasting clothes!

Show threadDunbar's NumberJul 18, 2024

@category sorry, yesterday I was quite tired. But I wanted to say this. Cotton is quite a thirsty plant and while right now, we're like we can grow it in abundance, it's incredible short-termism. We need to be more responsible as a species and only take just enough. When that mindset permeates society, it won't be an eleventh for ClothesInc™, it will become a first for someone that's always needed.

But you're spot on about fast fashion. It's a huge problem and the only way to fix that problem is by people learning how to take just enough, so that all of what the factories produce goes unsold and they're forced to produce less and less, year on year.