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Harris Sharpens Her Attacks on Trump

https://lemmy.ca/post/24857757

Harris Sharpens Her Attacks on Trump - Lemmy.ca

>The vice president told a crowd of roughly 20,000 in Dallas that former President Donald J. Trump had said he would terminate the Constitution in a second term. >“Consider: Donald Trump has openly vowed if re-elected he’ll be a dictator on day one, that he will weaponize the Department of Justice against his political enemies, round up peaceful protesters and throw them out of our country and even, and even and I quote, ‘terminate’ the United States Constitution,” Ms. Harris said.

SquishyPandaDev Jul 11, 2024

Ya and if you get elected, you’ll let the Republicans do it anyway

AuroraZzz Jul 11, 2024

Probably going to be the new dem nominee

givesomefucks Jul 11, 2024

I mean, realistically we knew it four years ago…

Its why we kept trying to argue Biden needed a better VP. But moderates told us VPs don’t matter.

I can hold my nose for Kamala, but fuck man. If there ain’t a real primary next election I’m over the party.

I’ve voted D for president for literally 20 years now…

08 was the only time I didnt just vote against the Republican party.

aubeynarf Jul 11, 2024

Oh my god stop with the “moderates told us” stuff, it’s such an obvious attempt to split people apart.

Ensign_Crab Jul 11, 2024

Tone police: in color!

aubeynarf Jul 11, 2024

You get the irony of your call-out, I hope?

chakan2 Jul 11, 2024

Well…the moderates successfully split people apart. We can’t do shit about it now except pray Biden finds a conscious.

Guy_Fieris_Hair Jul 12, 2024

We need to stop calling them moderates and start calling them conservatives.

Restaldt Jul 12, 2024

Regressives

Pronell Jul 11, 2024

It’s givesomefucks. “Done with the party” nonsense.

What are they gonna push next, #walkaway? Just block the that and make your life easier.

anticolonialist Jul 12, 2024

moderates told us

Leftist have been warning liberals about Biden for 4 years, they wouldnt listen and here we are.

Maggoty Jul 12, 2024

If the DNC doesn’t take this as a wake up then I don’t know how we’re going to avert catastrophe. But I can already see another primary in 2028 with no challengers because the DNC scared them all off to protect the incumbent democratic president. And I’m not sure what happens with 3 sham primaries in a row.

WamGams Jul 12, 2024

How was 2020 a sham primary?

Maggoty Jul 12, 2024

Oh wow, I’m really frickin tired. They weren’t in a row. My mind jumped from 2016 where Hillary Clinton already had control of the party’s assets to 2024 and 2028. Sorry about that.

WamGams Jul 12, 2024

No problem.

I won’t go so far as to say 2016 was rigged, but the DNC definitely tipped the scale for somebody who already was going to get the nomination regardless.

The fact of the matter is, Bernie pulls more support from independents than he does centrist democrats. He proved that the left is taking over the party, but we aren’t where we need to be yet.

Ensign_Crab Jul 12, 2024

The fact of the matter is, Bernie pulls more support from independents than he does centrist democrats. He proved that the left is taking over the party, but we aren’t where we need to be yet.

He also proved that the party will fight tooth and nail against the left but then just expect to win without trying against the right.

CommanderCloon Jul 12, 2024

They don’t care. They’re all corporate removed anyway, they’ll thrive under Republicans, except for the few of them who do actually care and be too noisy.

Those who voted for them are the ones who should worry – those whose existence and well being actually do depend on Republicans not being in power

😈MedicPig🐷BabySaver😈Jul 11, 2024

Fuck that. She’s been nearly invisible and very quiet. Definitely doesn’t exude strength.

anticolonialist Jul 12, 2024

And when she does talk, it’s nothing but word salads, SNL worthy

mysticpickle Jul 11, 2024

Pls no.

njm1314 Jul 11, 2024

I just have no faith in her ability to beat Trump. She’ll do worse than Biden ill bet.

Ensign_Crab Jul 11, 2024

I don’t know. One thing that she’s really good at is going on the attack. Go back and watch her in Senate hearings. If there’s anything we need post-Biden, it’s someone who will take the fight to Trump instead of bickering with him about golf. Assuming that she hasn’t let those skills atrophy in the interim, of course.

CleoTheWizard Jul 12, 2024

I don’t know why this is so hard, I care very little about her as a person. Biden is mostly at the whim of his party already and Kamala would be too. So the platforms remain nearly the same, but somewhat better on critical things like Gaza.

I don’t see how this is a loss for the dems to run her, they’re guaranteed in my mind to lose with Biden now. And you’re right, anyone who gets on stage and is younger than 65 against Trump will just trounce him. I was waiting for Biden to fight back just once against Trump but nope, he just sat there with his mouth open.

gibmiser Jul 11, 2024

I’m worried it will unite the sexists and racists behind trump

njm1314 Jul 11, 2024

Yeah that’s a big concern too.

Ensign_Crab Jul 11, 2024

Pretty sure they’re already there.

Are we really gonna chase them as a constituency?

gibmiser Jul 11, 2024

No, more like I’m worried we will motivate more to show up at the polls.

Stovetop Jul 11, 2024

More like they’ll actually be motivated to show up at the polls or not throw their vote away on Joe Exotic because they’re threatened by women of color.

crusa187 Jul 12, 2024

Dems have been chasing them to the bottom of the barrel for some time now.

qprimed Jul 11, 2024

they were already united.

this is about mobilization and harris may be able to bring a wider, deeper pool of voters to the polls. I can tell you, where I am, there is absolutely no fire or enthusiasm for biden and we will miss warm bodies at polls pulling D levers because of it.

TrickDacy Jul 11, 2024

Lol as if sexists and racists are voting democrat

Guy_Fieris_Hair Jul 12, 2024

There are a lot of people that don’t realize they are sexist, or racist. That think they are not because they got a friend who has a friend that’s black. They are surrounded by people that all also don’t realize they are racist, or sexist but they will start finding all the other flaws in them. They won’t say "I don’t trust a woman as president " but they will coincidently find other flaws in the person because they are involuntarily being more critical of them.

The point is, there are racist and sexists voting for Biden that wouldn’t vote for Kamala. They just don’t realize they are sexist.

I live in rural Arizona. I am essentially an expert on these type of people.

TrickDacy Jul 12, 2024

Okay yes that’s a thing. It’s also a thing that kids who would be too discouraged to vote at all would vote for Harris. We can’t really know how that would shake out exactly, because both groups are hard to quantity.

Maggoty Jul 12, 2024

Oh they exist.

cabron_offsets Jul 12, 2024

I will assume you’re a clever fellow and not a fuckwit.

SeriousMite Jul 12, 2024

They’re already voting for trump.

conditional_soup Jul 11, 2024

I don’t think so. She’s no Joe from the 2012 vp debates, but she’s also no Joe from the first 2024 presidential debate.

The Assman Jul 11, 2024

Don’t trip over that bar on the floor

conditional_soup Jul 12, 2024

Fuckin tell me about it

emax_gomax Jul 11, 2024

She’s not senile and Biden is basically winning on a platform of not trump so I can only imagine she’ll do better. The people don’t like Biden, they dislike trump. No one currently in the running is anyone’s first choice and pretending otherwise is just madness, so someone who has the advantage of not being fascist and not being senile only sounds like an improvement.

Boomer Humor Doomergod Jul 12, 2024

Same here. But it’s not a lack of faith in her, it’s a lack of faith in Americans.

xc2215x Jul 11, 2024

Trump wants to be a dictator.

chakan2 Jul 11, 2024

The Democrats think the donations that will bring in are going to be excellent.

CableMonster Jul 12, 2024

Then why didnt he do it last time?

InternetUser2012 Jul 12, 2024

Did you miss out on Jan 6th?

CableMonster Jul 12, 2024

So dictators just give up power when they are told to?

Schmoo Jul 12, 2024

Is that what you think happened on J6?

CableMonster Jul 12, 2024

I think a riot happened on jan 6th. What about May 29th?

Schmoo Jul 12, 2024

Are you suggesting that an attempt to halt the certification of a presidential election endorsed and encouraged by the sitting president in the hopes of avoiding abdicating power is equivalent to a protest over police brutality?

CableMonster Jul 12, 2024

Legal warfare, I dont like it either, but the losers do this a lot. If jan 6th was an insurrection or whatever, what was May 29th?

Schmoo Jul 12, 2024

Legal warfare, I dont like it either, but the losers do this a lot.

Show me one time Democrats have attempted to stop the certification of an election by force. You can’t just pretend this happens as a standard matter of course.

what was May 29th?

May 29th was a riot and not an insurrection because it had nothing to do with trying to overturn an election. Are you getting it yet?

InternetUser2012 Jul 12, 2024

I’m going with he’s clearly a bot or he’s “touched”.

Schmoo Jul 12, 2024

A not would surely have better grammar and spelling.

AngryCommieKender Jul 13, 2024

I’ve never seen CableMonster have a sane take.

CableMonster Jul 12, 2024

Its not the same mechanism, but Hilary with making false russian claim and Gore with all the counting shenanigans.

How were they going to overturn an election by occupying a building?

Schmoo Jul 12, 2024

Hilary with making false russian claim

In what way do claims of Russian interference - which has some truth to it btw - directly result in the overturning of an election?

Gore with all the counting shenanigans

Insane to present an example of an election being manipulated in Bush’s favor as an attempt by Gore to overturn an election. How are we supposed to have a discussion when we clearly live in different realities?

How were they going to overturn an election by occupying a building?

The attack on the Capitol was part of a wider plan orchestrated by Trump and his backers. The fake electors, the call to Georgia’s secretary of state, the baseless accusations of voter fraud… All of these combine to paint a pretty clear picture. Hell, the crowd at the Capitol called to hang Mike Pence because he refused to count the fake Certificates of Ascertainment.

I’m only responding for the benefit of others since I know you’re just going to deny all of this or try to claim Democrats did the same or worse, but I really do hope you overcome your delusions someday.

CableMonster Jul 12, 2024

Hillary undermined his whole presidency. Al Gore tried to use law to win election.

The attack on the Capitol was part of a wider plan orchestrated by Trump and his backers.

Conspiracy theory…

Schmoo Jul 12, 2024

Hillary undermined his whole presidency.

Yes, the fact that Russia ran a coordinated disinformation campaign that favored Trump does undermine his legitimacy a bit, but let’s not miss the forest for the trees. The fact that Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 and lost the election entirely in 2020 is more significant.

Al Gore tried to use law to win election.

61,000 ballots were not counted by mistake. Gore used the law to try and have them counted and the conservative supreme court interfered for political reasons. Gore was in the right.

Conspiracy theory

The amount of evidence supporting this theory rivals the theory of gravity.

InternetUser2012 Jul 12, 2024

Rivals the theory of gravity. I love it. I’m going to use it, thank you.

CableMonster Jul 13, 2024

Yeah got it you believe things that are not true, I cant argue with that. Have a great day!!