MelonYellowJul 11, 2024

Harris Sharpens Her Attacks on Trump

https://lemmy.ca/post/24857757

Harris Sharpens Her Attacks on Trump - Lemmy.ca

>The vice president told a crowd of roughly 20,000 in Dallas that former President Donald J. Trump had said he would terminate the Constitution in a second term. >“Consider: Donald Trump has openly vowed if re-elected he’ll be a dictator on day one, that he will weaponize the Department of Justice against his political enemies, round up peaceful protesters and throw them out of our country and even, and even and I quote, ‘terminate’ the United States Constitution,” Ms. Harris said.

Show threadxc2215x
Trump wants to be a dictator.
Jul 11, 2024 at 8:59pmWeb
Show threadchakan2Jul 11, 2024
The Democrats think the donations that will bring in are going to be excellent.
Show threadCableMonsterJul 12, 2024
Then why didnt he do it last time?
Show threadInternetUser2012Jul 12, 2024
Did you miss out on Jan 6th?
Show threadCableMonsterJul 12, 2024
So dictators just give up power when they are told to?
Show threadSchmooJul 12, 2024
Is that what you think happened on J6?
Show threadCableMonsterJul 12, 2024
I think a riot happened on jan 6th. What about May 29th?
Show threadSchmooJul 12, 2024
Are you suggesting that an attempt to halt the certification of a presidential election endorsed and encouraged by the sitting president in the hopes of avoiding abdicating power is equivalent to a protest over police brutality?
Show threadCableMonsterJul 12, 2024
Legal warfare, I dont like it either, but the losers do this a lot. If jan 6th was an insurrection or whatever, what was May 29th?
Show threadSchmooJul 12, 2024

Legal warfare, I dont like it either, but the losers do this a lot.

Show me one time Democrats have attempted to stop the certification of an election by force. You can’t just pretend this happens as a standard matter of course.

what was May 29th?

May 29th was a riot and not an insurrection because it had nothing to do with trying to overturn an election. Are you getting it yet?

Show threadInternetUser2012Jul 12, 2024
I’m going with he’s clearly a bot or he’s “touched”.
Show threadSchmooJul 12, 2024
A not would surely have better grammar and spelling.
Show threadAngryCommieKenderJul 13, 2024
I’ve never seen CableMonster have a sane take.
Show threadCableMonsterJul 12, 2024

Its not the same mechanism, but Hilary with making false russian claim and Gore with all the counting shenanigans.

How were they going to overturn an election by occupying a building?

Show threadSchmooJul 12, 2024

Hilary with making false russian claim

In what way do claims of Russian interference - which has some truth to it btw - directly result in the overturning of an election?

Gore with all the counting shenanigans

Insane to present an example of an election being manipulated in Bush’s favor as an attempt by Gore to overturn an election. How are we supposed to have a discussion when we clearly live in different realities?

How were they going to overturn an election by occupying a building?

The attack on the Capitol was part of a wider plan orchestrated by Trump and his backers. The fake electors, the call to Georgia’s secretary of state, the baseless accusations of voter fraud… All of these combine to paint a pretty clear picture. Hell, the crowd at the Capitol called to hang Mike Pence because he refused to count the fake Certificates of Ascertainment.

I’m only responding for the benefit of others since I know you’re just going to deny all of this or try to claim Democrats did the same or worse, but I really do hope you overcome your delusions someday.

Show threadCableMonsterJul 12, 2024

Hillary undermined his whole presidency. Al Gore tried to use law to win election.

The attack on the Capitol was part of a wider plan orchestrated by Trump and his backers.

Conspiracy theory…

Show threadSchmooJul 12, 2024

Hillary undermined his whole presidency.

Yes, the fact that Russia ran a coordinated disinformation campaign that favored Trump does undermine his legitimacy a bit, but let’s not miss the forest for the trees. The fact that Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 and lost the election entirely in 2020 is more significant.

Al Gore tried to use law to win election.

61,000 ballots were not counted by mistake. Gore used the law to try and have them counted and the conservative supreme court interfered for political reasons. Gore was in the right.

Conspiracy theory

The amount of evidence supporting this theory rivals the theory of gravity.

Show threadInternetUser2012Jul 12, 2024
Rivals the theory of gravity. I love it. I’m going to use it, thank you.
Show threadCableMonsterJul 13, 2024
Yeah got it you believe things that are not true, I cant argue with that. Have a great day!!
Show threadlepinkainenJul 12, 2024

He hasn’t conceded the previous election yet…

In his and his cultists eyes he never stopped being the president

Show threadCableMonsterJul 12, 2024
So you are afraid of imaginary dictators?
Show threadInternetUser2012Jul 12, 2024
What flavor was the kool aid? I mean, you didn’t just have a glass, you drank the whole pitcher.
Show threadInternetUser2012Jul 12, 2024
What a hilarious take comrade.
Show threadCableMonsterJul 12, 2024
Sorry man, I hate commies since they want to take my childrens rights.
Show threadLucidlethargyJul 12, 2024

Dismantling two and a half centuries of checks, balances, and protections isn’t half as easy as you may think.

The jury is still out on whether he’s capable enough to do it if he wins again. This said, who the fuck wants to take that chance?

Trump is also a selfish, amoral piece of shit that will pull us out of NATO and kowtow to Putin as he expands across Europe. He doesn’t care about anyone but himself, and the foreign countries and businesses he’s forever indebted to.

The only “upside” to this guy is the delusions he’s selling his fanclub on. They’re all lies, but America is infested with enough idiots that we’re more having to deal with this situation.

I’m so ashamed of this segment of my countrymen. What absolute rubes Trump voters are.

Show threadCableMonsterJul 12, 2024
If he is going to destroy the government why even bother with an election and just say he is permanent president? And of course you are flying the Ukraine flag.
Show threadanticolonialistJul 12, 2024
Which is somehow different than Biden refusing to give up power and drop out despite no one wanting him?
Show threadMonkRomeJul 12, 2024
Yes! Amazing both sidesing a man that wants to end democracy with a senile moderate.
Show threadanticolonialistJul 12, 2024
Except the part where Biden is no moderate, and several of his policies, he’s been to the right of Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher
Show threadMonkRomeJul 12, 2024
The fact that you missed the point was not unexpected.
Show threadwhoreticultureJul 12, 2024
Maybe be accurate when you try to make your points. Biden is much closer to Trump in policies than you probably realize.
Show threadJimSamtankoJul 12, 2024
Maybe but give examples when you try to make your points. I’d love to see you show your receipts here.
Show threadwhoreticultureJul 12, 2024
Lmao what are you my fucking English teacher?
Show threadJimSamtankoJul 12, 2024
Don’t say shit if you can’t show the work.
Show threadwhoreticultureJul 12, 2024
Maybe stop telling me what to do! You’re giving commands like an English teacher and it’s kind of annoying. You can do your own research, I’m not here to debate, just left a quick comment. Bye.
Show threadJimSamtankoJul 12, 2024

As I figured. You got nothing.

Thanks for playing!

Show threadwhoreticultureJul 12, 2024
Wow cool!!
Show threadJimSamtankoJul 12, 2024

Cool indeed. I showed anyone reading along what they would need to see from you- which is that you’re all talk.

Now you’re just trying to save face by going on the offensive. You took a swing and there’s no reason to be that upset about it.

That you missed so catastrophically…. Yeah. You probably should be upset about that.

Show threadwhoreticultureJul 12, 2024
Oh my God lmao you have no idea what is going here bro I am just ignoring you
Show threadJimSamtankoJul 12, 2024

I’d apologize for asking you to support your claim with proof, if it were a thing that could be considered insulting or some sort of personal attack, but no-

All I did was tried to get you to provide evidence to back up your point.

So I’m not sure when you’re pulling out the “bro” on me. Your claim doesn’t hold water. And you know it.

Bro.

Show threadwhoreticultureJul 12, 2024
here’s the notification you seem to want
Show threadJimSamtankoJul 12, 2024
Apologies again, for having the nerve to ask you to back up your shit.
Show threadwhoreticultureJul 12, 2024
I do not want to write an essay and/or debate with you! 🙂
Show threadJimSamtankoJul 12, 2024
You spelled “I can’t back up my bullshit” wrong.
Show threadwhoreticultureJul 13, 2024
Wow you really want these notifs
Show threadJimSamtankoJul 13, 2024

You could always just…. Not respond. That would stop giving me what I want if they were the case, wouldn’t it?

I mean, YOU were the wine that was going to ignore me.

Lastly, all I was trying to do was get you to provide some evidence to support your bullshit. You have none, claim to not want to waste the time- yet have all the time in the world to continue this discussion.

That pretty much plays right into proving my point from the beginning: You have nothing. And I’ve proven that.

Now that it’s settled- I’m going to show you how to shut down a troll.

Ready?

Show threadbraxy29Jul 12, 2024
well, that escalated quickly
Show threadwhoreticultureJul 12, 2024
It’s not really an escalation, more like a, fuck off I’m not interested in engaging in a debate
Show threadtherealzordonJul 12, 2024
My man has bad memories with his English teacher.
Show threadwhoreticultureJul 12, 2024
My English teacher was a vocal Zionist, so actually yeah.
Show threadFrostyTheDooJul 12, 2024

^ The comment of a person that has no real point to make.

You had every opportunity in this thread to actually point to 1 dictatorial or ultra conservative policy Joe has implemented, and by not providing even 1 example you’re having the opposite of the intended effect.

If you’re going to act like you know more than other people about something, it might be a good idea to have some real information on hand. Or, you could always just not say anything at all if you’re uniformed.

Show threadwhoreticultureJul 12, 2024
u replied again? here’s the notification you want
Show threadZinkJul 12, 2024
And all this after starting the conversation with “Maybe be accurate when you try to make your points.”
Show threadwhoreticultureJul 12, 2024
Asking someone to be accurate (when they have admitted to knowing better) and asking someone to get into a debate with citations are two different things.
Show threadKrzdJul 12, 2024
Man, if only you listened to your teacher instead of embarrassing yourself on the internet.
Show threadwhoreticultureJul 12, 2024
If you think I am embarrassed by people downvoting me on the forum with the worst community I have yet seen, no. lol. I go here for news stories, the community (you) sucks ass. Way too liberal (derogatory).
Show threadJimSamtankoJul 12, 2024
Man you are working HARD tonight! Giving the other bots a break?
Show threadkhan_shot_1stJul 12, 2024
Yes.
Show threadanticolonialistJul 12, 2024
No
Show threadFrostyTheDooJul 12, 2024

Lol, yes it’s very different. A dictator is not an unpopular person trying to win a democratic election, or refusing to step down from a position they were elected into and still have remaining time in their term. He’s being stubborn, not a dictator.

A dictator would be someone who doesn’t leave after losing an election, or who changes or removes the process of elections to remain in power. Among other things that Biden is absolutely not doing.

Show threadexanimeJul 12, 2024
This comparison is so forced, I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are a troll. Nobody can be this stupid