Daring FireballJul 9, 2024
New Cars in the EU Now Equipped With Nagging Speed Limiters
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2024/07/09/intelligent-speed-nagging
New Cars in the EU Now Equipped With Nagging Speed Limiters

Link to: https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/new-cars-fitted-automatic-speed-limiters-this-week/

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Show threadPaul GraveJul 9, 2024
@daringfireball @gruber It always irked me that e-bikes had speed governors whilst cars didn’t. Unlike almost everything else EU regulators have done recently, this is something that seems sensible to me. I’m wondering how many lives it will save.
In the UK, if you’re caught speeding you can choose to pay a fine or attend a speed awareness course. To have technology help me avoid speeding is a welcome feature.
Show threadDelric
@paulgrav @daringfireball @gruber it’s a welcome feature? couldn’t you just, you know, lift up on the gas if you don’t like the tickets?
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Show threadPaul GraveJul 9, 2024
@delric @daringfireball @gruber Not sure about other countries but there are frequent limit changes in the UK. Before you know it, you’re unintentionally doing 40 in a 30 zone. Speed assistance in that instance is a personal convenience. If this feature can reduce deaths by 20%, then the argument to not have ISA would have to be pretty compelling.
Show threadDelricJul 10, 2024
@paulgrav @daringfireball @gruber ah the “If it saves just one life…” argument. You know what would save more than 20%? If it made you go even slower. Or even not at all. But no, we accept the causality cost of convenient things like auto travel, so the argument crumbles
Show threadPaul GraveJul 10, 2024
@delric It’s not one life, the expectation is that there will be 20% fewer deaths. Is your argument really that because society accepts some fatalities that there should be no further improvements in road safety to lower fatalities?
Show threadAdam RussellJul 13, 2024
@paulgrav @delric @daringfireball @gruber I’ve driven a car that shows the speed limit on the dash for years (a Volvo XC40, using both GPS and road sign recognition). It’s wrong so very rarely that it is very notable in the odd event that it is.
Show threadAdam RussellJul 13, 2024
@paulgrav @delric @daringfireball @gruber also… self driving cars say hi.