Dan GillmorA question for Americans who think they can just emigrate to some liberal haven if Trump wins:
What makes you think any other countries want you?
Rufus J. Cooter@dangillmor Also: what makes you think that these liberal havens will remain as such after a Trump win in the US?
In Search of a Better WorldAmerican Billionaires are the ones funding the rise of the far right throughout the globe, especially the christo-fascists. Hell, they are even funding Putin half the time.
America is the frontline in the fight against global fascism more than Russia and Ukraine are. Liberal Americans need to put their lives on the line in the same way they want Ukrainians to do.
Delric@CrypticMirror @RufusJCooter @dangillmor billionaires arent funding Putin, Putin is the worlds wealthiest billionaire.
jsj@dangillmor Depends on the skill set. Software engineers and many other techies will be fine. I suspect there are many countries who would love to get some of that woke brain. The smart ones know we’re not all bad.
Yeah, those countries wanting a leg up on tech. Well known liberal havens like China...
happyborg@jsj
Seems misguided confidence in a time of mass layoffs in US tech.
Here in UK I'm not aware of particular skills shortages in those areas. Health and social care are the main areas and I suspect that's widespread in the West due to demographics we share.
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Angie@dangillmor People always talk about moving to another country if their candidate doesn't win. They usually don't.
Dennis Moser@dangillmor how many are “liberal “? Waiting out the French elections tomorrow…
Debbie Goldsmith 🏳️⚧️♾️🇺🇦@dangillmor As a trans woman, I’d prefer to take that chance rather than wait and experience what Project 2025 has planned for me.
JohnWThere is no longer any haven of any kind.
Climate change picks up where escapism leaves off.
Mark Hughes@dangillmor I was thinking about this. I was wondering where they would go. Most would choose English speaking countries such as Canada, NZ and of course here in UK.
I don't know Canada's attitude but good luck getting into NZ or UK. Oz too.
Djembro, RO, supports 🇺🇦🇬🇪@dangillmor
Americans who don’t need to work are welcome in most places. More accurately, their American dollars which they would spend to maintain themselves, would be welcome. So, Americans may not be able to get a work permit. And to get a residency permit, they may have to provide proof of substantial liquid assets. With such, you can go nearly anywhere, as far as I can tell.
Americans who don’t need to work are welcome in most places. More accurately, their American dollars which they would spend to maintain themselves, would be welcome. So, Americans may not be able to get a work permit. And to get a residency permit, they may have to provide proof of substantial liquid assets. With such, you can go nearly anywhere, as far as I can tell.
McWabbit 🇺🇦🍋🌻🍉@dangillmor Other countries have the same Kremlin aligned fascists doing the very same power grab or have already succeeded. We all must fight them. At the ballots, in the streets and homes if it comes to that.
Karl Auerbach@dangillmor Dual citizenship can be quite useful.
Frank BurgensteinExactly.
Either your bank account / portfolio allows you to live on your own financial resources or you are nothing else than another bloody asylum seeker who is obviously intending to live on *our* welfare funds since so called conservatives habe abolished Human Rights. At least in Europe.
Or can't you wait to do a trip to Rwanda? Africa?
Then book an economy flight to Heathrow, mention the magic word "Asylum" at the immigration desk and let the United Kingdom do the rest for you with a dash of speed.
Sorry for my sarcasm. But if it helps: Nazis might take over here and then our situation will be similar. And a bit later, when great parts of Belgium / The Netherlands will be 5 metres below sea level due to climate change forcing the people there to have to move - will be interesting
Bottom line: people will be forced to perform another "Barbarian Migration", but please bear with our Nazis and Conservatives: Kindly go somewhere else. Do Not Consider Europe.
#ServiceToot #LiberalHaven #MAGA #PoliticalAsylum #ClimateAsylum #FCKNazis #FCKTrump
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