I really hate the term “side-loading.” We shouldn’t need a word for the normal way we’ve been installing apps for the past 40 years. If tomorrow Apple decided they were going to start only letting you visit web pages they approved of, we wouldn’t call some sort of alternating system that let you see *the rest of the fucking internet* “side-paging”. We’d instead call the whole thing bullshit.

@tolmasky however, the smartphone was enough of a different device that it fits nicely in the mind as fundamentally not a computer (In much the same way that your refrigerator isn't a computer even though there's almost certainly a general purpose CPU in there these days) and Apple's ecosystem kicked off from day one aas a locked-down appliance a store for loading programs onto it (which if memory serves was much in line with the way early generations of cell phones capable of running applications worked... Mostly because they weren't programmed in a common SDK or even chipset so it was quite difficult to acquire and load applications onto them from a PC).

The distinction is historically relevant, is the point. And in fact, the entire store approach gave an added layer of confidence to the entire experience that was lacking in the PC ecosystem of the time; nobody wanted a virus on their phone.

@mark The reason you don’t have a virus is because of sandboxing and a host of other non-AppStore reasons. The AppStore has been repeatedly shown to have nothing to do with that. Apple let scam Authenticator apps stay on the store for a full week, and even suggested them a one the team apps! To quote Phill Schiller: “Is no one minding the store?!” The AppStore is actually worse for security because it convinces people everything there is safe, when nothing could be further from the truth.
@mark Apple has only ever effectively used the AppStore to enforce their 30% tax, not any safety thing. It’s basically the TSA of app security. Actually worse than the TSA, because tons of stuff gets through so they can’t even take credit for the lack of incidents.
Nearly 2,000 victims fell for Android malware scams, at least S$34.1 million lost in 2023

The majority of victims were aged 30 to 49, and were most frequently targeted on Facebook and Instagram.

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@mark
@tolmasky

As an early smartphone adopter, I could load programs on my Windows mobile or palm os devices anytime I wanted.

The Apple ecosystem was always unique in that you have *never* had a means by which to directly load anything.

Despite the fact that it *could* be a general purpose computer, it is intentionally neutered in a way that should be illegal

@mav @tolmasky It is intentionally neutered in a way that users desire.

Ask why Palm and Windows Mobile didn't make it. It's because the App Store is a much better distribution model. Some things users don't want more choices for.

For those that do, we have Android.

@mark
@tolmasky

I don't buy it. It's intentionally neutered in a way that Apple wanted and users are indifferent about.

I'm not claiming the app store isn't a vastly superior distribution model, but I am claiming that not allowing people to do what they want to with the hardware they own is Bad, Actually, limits the amount of repurposing people can do, compounds e-waste, etc on top of limiting choice.

And there's no reason why they should *force* everyone to use the App Store other than greed.