all_i_seeBiden says he 'screwed up' debate but vows to stay in election
A New York Times poll conducted after the debate, which was published on Wednesday, suggested Trump was now holding his biggest lead yet at six points.
And a separate poll published by the BBC’s US partner CBS News suggested Trump has a three-point lead over Mr Biden in the crucial battleground states
Him refusing to listen to voters is reason enough to replace him.
But Joe can’t win without Dem voters. Every indication is he’s willing to hand trump the presidency out of spite if the party doesn’t force him out.
He’s not fit to be president, even if we beat Trump. We’re stuck with this shit where Biden does whatever the fuck he wants, and rarely agrees with the people who put him in office.
TropicalDingdongI mean, this is the kind of messaging we should expect from the office until the exact moment he flips. There isn’t anything really “new” in this BBC article, its mostly a rehash of several other articles and polls that have come out since last Thursday.
I’m still holding out for an announcement this evening/ tomorrow morning, but I am becoming less confident in that. I’m still confident that Biden isn’t going to be the nominee, but he’s creating a significant cost associated with him continuing to run as a lost-cause candidate. We need to move on and regroup, and we’re running out of time to do so.
At this point, Biden needs to basically recover 30 points in the polling to overcome the disadvantage we know he carries going into a general (we have seen how he underperforms his polling on election day; we also know that Trump typically outperforms his polling on election day). A thirty point swing at this point is a statistical impossibility, for those being practical about the matter. I can post the analysis again, but no swing of that magnitude has ever happened this close to election day. Ever. Based on his current polling, Biden has a less than 1% probability of winning, which is to say, basically impossible.
Snot FlickermanEven changing the nominee is risky at this point. There’s never been a party that has won when changing the nominee at the “last minute.”
That’s what’s scary here, replacing him could even be more disastrous than standing behind him. Both are bad choices. We’ve been fucked into a bad choice by a party that doesn’t give a shit about its own voters.
If only literally anybody in the party apparatus had listened to reason in four fucking years instead of being like “We can cart his corpse out until he croaks like we did with Dianne Feinstein.”
Get back to me when we switch candidates and still lose.
You really think when the party goes into back rooms and smokes cigars to choose the candidate that the Democratic voters are just going to fall in line and vote for them?
What if the choice the party chooses is Hillary Rodham Clinton?
Tell me, what candidate do the Democrats even have that would electrify their voter base.
I’m a Democrat and all I’ve got to say is “Fuck Newsom” and “I’d vote for Whitmer to stop Trump but that’s about it.”
The very idea that the party choosing the candidate after years of people being angry about the party fucking over Bernie Sanders on purpose will be somehow a popular pick is a big fucking joke. They argued in court that it was legal for them to choose their own candidate. Lots of people remember that and will be pissed off that the party is choosing for them again.
We’re well past the primaries. We have a month and a half until the convention. The two choices are the party picks the candidate, or they let the delegates choose at the convention. Both will be guaranteed shitshows, since none of the actual voters will get a choice in this matter.
Maybe you could run with this argument if the DNC hadn’t purposefully locked Bernie Sanders out as a candidate twice in a row. People remember, people won’t be happy about the bullshit choice of Biden being replace with another bullshit choice. We’re not gonna magic up some primaries in a month and a half.
The party literally chose to ignore this issue until after the primaries so voters wouldn’t have a choice. Fuck them for that.
They chose to deny that Biden was too old, and they purposefully waited until after the primaries to admit it to deny voters an actual choice because they think the party knows better. Evidence of the last 20 years is the party doesn’t know shit.
…but I guess if we just ignore the actual logistics and the recent past of the party itself, we can just play pretend that it will totally work out. /s
… what candidate…
AOC would be electrifying. But you’ve pretty clearly already decided that it’s not possible to win with literally anyone except checks notes Joseph fucking Biden, a candidate that people didn’t even want to vote for last time.
Ah yes. This old tired canard.
Please explain it to me.