FmbyMFWhat was your most intrusive thought?
Toddler related as well. Wanted to slam his face into the edge of the sink until the screaming stops. It was pretty close a few times.
u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)This is probably normal. Kick it like a soccer ball, slam it into ground, throw out through train window while moving,…
Always felt like stabbing footballs when practicing juggling. Knowing I felt that kind of anger towards inanimate objects was a big reason not to have kids. Destroying your own property is fine. It's just property. A kid though...
Very, VERY true.
It’s a thing.
Things can literally be “too cute” and it shorts our brains out causing feelings of aggression towards the too cute thing.
Like, how people talk about eating a babys toes, some people are repeating a saying, some are honestly experiencing the urge to do it because their brains are overloaded with cute.
Like in Fight Club where Jared Leto was too pretty so Edward Norton bashed his face in.
It’s not some maladaptive behavior or anything though, it’s just whatever thing you’re looking at is literally too cute for your brain to comprehend.
This is why I will never have kids.
grasshopper_mouseYuuuup same.
touristI often get the urge to steer into groups of pedestrians and cyclists or knocking over small road signs
Never did it obviously. my car would not survive that anyway.
Probs just Tetris effect from the hundreds of hours I spent playing GTA when I was younger. I’d always do that shit
Thpppppp
oh my god I can’t breathe
fucking love billy burr
Whenever i have a knife and see a thick electrical wire i have to stop myself from “just testing” what would happen if I cut into it. I work with 400v ac on a construction site a lot and I know what would happen lol.
Beemo DachbodenAt my last workplace there was a central staircase with a gap in the middle through the whole building.
I very often had an intrusive thought of jumping down 4 stories.
It came even more often when one of the lights inside this gap started flickering and I could have taken it down with me.
👍Maximum Derek👍I get that urge time I use a helical staircase with a human (or larger) sized central air gap. I think it’s a niche form for High Place Phenomenon… maybe because I watched too much Batman (TAS) as a kid.
An urge to jump affirms the urge to live: an empirical examination of the high place phenomenon - PubMed
The HPP is commonly experienced among suicide ideators and non-ideators alike. Thus, individuals who report experiencing the phenomenon are not necessarily suicidal; rather, the experience of HPP may reflect their sensitivity to internal cues and actually affirm their will to live.
I used to rummage often, meaning that many old conversations, arguments, and aggressions lingered in my mind for days and would upset me very much. I went to a psychologist and she was incredibly dismissive so I had to deal with that on my own because I felt ashamed to go anywhere else. Thankfully, I don’t have them anymore or as much as I used to.
I think the word you’re looking for is ruminate. The word comes from ruminant animals like cows, who partially digest fibrous plants, regurgitate them, and “chew cud”. Which is what we do when we regurgitate negative memories.
My tool, which works for me but i am not a mental health expert, is this:
When i find that I’ve entered a ruminant thought cycle, I’ll start asking these questions and working through it logically
- Does this memory have something beneficial to teach me in this moment?
- Can I learn any more from this memory?
- The moment is in the past, and I’m alive here and now
- I am the only one who still remembers
- This memory is no longer useful, I will think about something else
- I’ll think about something now, because I’m alive now
I’m sorry your psychologist was ineffective. A good one can be hard to find
the word you’re looking for is ruminate
I do! I can’t believe I used the wrong one, that’s embarrassing. Thanks for the tips and the correction!
No worries! I used the wrong “your” the other day, all good
That’s a great comment. I go though basically the same steps with my constant flow of embarrassing and/or sad memories
If they’re useful then maybe I should explore this thought for a little longer, or try to speak with someone
If I have nothing to gain from it and it’s just making me cringe or sad I try to do something else to distract myself
It’s important to not shut these memories down immediately. Some memories really need to be explored in order for you to properly leave them in the past. And you can bottle up a bunch of emotions if you refuse to think about thoughts that come to you constantly.
Rob T FireflyPlease don’t give up on finding a mental health care provider who works for you! If it helps, think of it like shopping for any other product or service; you want to pick out food that works for you, clothes that fit you well, electronics you can use well, the right beverage you’re in the mood for in the moment, etc. and finding a psychologist who provides the psychological care that works for you as an individual is just as important.
It’s very important to remember that not jiving well with one psychologist, therapist, etc. is not in any way a failure on your part. Sometimes someone just isn’t the right service provider for you, and that’s nothing you need to be ashamed about.
If you are getting a builder to work on your house, a mechanic to work on your vehicle, and such it’s perfectly normal to consult with more than one person before picking out who you think is the best for for the job and to change providers if one isn’t working out, and your health is no less important to get the right person to work with you on.
I’d go so far as to say that the vast majority of people who use mental health providers have encountered one or more that just weren’t right for them, and I certainly count myself as one of those clients. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with shopping around for someone who works out better for you.
I’m sorry that you had a bad experience with your psychologist.
If I can point out one thing that might help you is that these thoughts largely come from an evolutionary trait called Negative Bias
Negative Bias is the disproportionate focus on bad events and/or memories compared to good events.
It applies to a large range of memories and our ability to perceive danger. Evolutionary it makes sense because our embarrassing memories makes us afraid or unwilling to behave in a way that the social group doesn’t like.
You can imagine when humans lived in societies in small groups of 30 people, that disrespecting someone could get you kicked out of the group and potentially starve to death in the wild. So there is a very strong evolutionary pressure that made your brain evolve to avoid repeating bad scenarios
Your constant embarrassing, sad, or traumatic memories are your brain reminding you over and over not to be in that situation again.
Unfortunately your brain didn’t evolve to be happy. It evolved to survive.
All I wanted to explain is that these memories are not your fault. Don’t feel like you’re any different because you have bad memories constantly. Accept that your brain will do what it is programmed to do and learn how to work around those tendencies.
And I could recommend trying another psychologist. I’m also available to chat if you’d like. Cheers 🙂
DasnapI get bad short thoughts about how I could easily end so many personal relationships with a quick random punch to the face. Pick the right person and you could be ostracised from your whole family.
Mine has been to slap a stranger. I want to know, what will happen after that?
WIZARD POPEđź’«I did that accidentaly once. We were visiting Scotland and I tried to point out something and accidentally slapped a woman straight in the face. She just cursed and looked at me strangely and walked away.
At least you are a wizard and a pope, so you can lift the curse, right
I was not the wizard pope yet back then.
In college I was enjoying some recreational activities at a house party.
Next to me on a couch was this kid who had like low grade cerebral palsey or something. Like, legitimately, he had those arm crutch things Walter White’s kid had. Never asked what it actually was.
Anyways, he laughs at something and leans back on the couch. And accidentally does one of those back punches like Bruce Lee. Like, where someone sneaks up behind him and he just hits them with the back of his fist without looking.
Anyways, dude gets me straight in the nose, doesn’t stop laughing, gets two inches from my face and screams
You just got punched by a fucking cripple
And just absolutely died laughing.
He was a cool dude, and that was probably the only time he’s punched anyone in his life, and it was absolutely an accident. But it was just hilarious how he rolled with it
Whenever I see game (and some domestic) animal I instinctively look at them as food and trying to find a way to kill them right then and there. Just the outline of the flesh is enough for an instant plan from slaughter to plate.
One of your ancient ancestors is like “this guy’s the one, time to egg him on again”
I should just go on a road trip again. Every time I get on the highway by myself, and I see that open road, I think about how I could just go and take another road trip.
Fortunately, I got a trip to the grand canyon lined up for this fall, if all goes well.
BougieBirdieWhenever I pick up my knife my brain says, “what if I just stick this into my belly?”
They say your brain imagines these scenarios so that you can try to avoid them, but the more you learn about trying to wrangle your brain the more I think the brain is just a dick sometimes.
They say your brain imagines these scenarios so that you can try to avoid them
Not quite.
Like, there’s a scary amount we don’t know about the brain and how it works.
But I think it’s a little different than you said. It’s the brain trying to figure out how it would deal if that happened.
Like, you avoid stabbing yourself by not stabbing yourself.
But your brain is evaluating if stabbing yourself so you can practice surviving a stab wound would be a good idea.
Which, sounds crazy, untill you realize most of what humans do for fun involves tricking our brains or bodies I to think we’re in danger. Hell, even the drive to “play” is just tricking us into exercising so we’re stronger if we do have to fight.
Even tickling is just teaching kids what parts to guard in a fight.
Call me Lenny/LeniMy most common thought of all time or my most common that appears unprovoked?
My most common thought of all time is, just generally, about how mentally misguided humans are in general. In my experience, people predominantly have an “ask questions later” approach to things, and then when they do finally “ask the question”, it’s “how do I excuse myself”. My whole life, and everything I’ve learned from history, is shaped by this, and they hate pushback. If humanity killed someone for agreeing, in time, would they be remembered as a philosopher or a crazy person since inclination rules?
My most common thought that appears unprovoked is similar, it deals with the situations I’ve been witness to in the name of what I described and trying to think out what the implications actually are and what would be in the best interest of each situation. I recently watched a show about a guy who built 100 houses for people in an impoverished country, and people reacted to this act of charity by complaining he was continuing colonialism. Sometimes “I can’t even” is a perfect mood descriptor.
Why do we always consider cultures as inherently better than cults? Are there no exceptions to this? - lemm.ee
This might sound like a question inspired by current events, but I’ve actually been thinking of this for a while and can give pointers to a few times I had asked this or talked about it. The people who the masses look up to seem to have a strange way of dishing out their opinions/approval/disapproval of the groups of the world. Some groups can get away with being considered good no matter how negative their actions are while other groups are stuck with a high disapproval rating no matter how much good they might do, and a discussion on whether “culture” or a “cult” is involved almost always comes up. An example of this is the relationship between Islam and Scientology, in fact this is the most infamous one I can link to having spoken about. People on a certain side of the thinktank spectrum (the same side Lemmy seems to lean towards at times) are quick to criticize Scientology even though they consider “classic Islamic philosophy”, for a lack of a better way to put it without generalizing, as not inspiring a call for critique to see how one may change it. And I’ve always wondered, why? One at times leads people to trying to exterminate innocent groups [https://masto.ai/@Fizzymus/111209226230438251], the other one is just “Space Gnosticism” that has a few toxic aspects but hasn’t actually eliminated anyone. Of course, I’m not defending either one, but certainly I’d rather live in a stressful environment than one that actively targets me. This question has been asked a few times, sometimes [https://www.reddit.com/r/samharris/comments/6uxalf/why_do_liberals_have_no_qualms_about_criticizing/] without me but sometimes [https://www.tumblr.com/deviantartdramahub/730118017112031232/so-in-case-people-didnt-know-what-was-going-on?source=share] when I’m around to be involved, and they always say (and it’s in my dumb voice [https://lemm.ee/post/10862834] that I quote them) “well Scientology is a cult, of course we can criticize them” and then a bit about how whatever other thing is being talked about is a part of culture. This doesn’t sit well with my way of thinking. I was taught to judge people by the content of their character, in other words their virtues, so in my mind, a good X is better than a bad Y, in this case a good cult should be better than a good culture, right? Right? In fact, as what many might call a mild misanthrope, I’d flip it around and point out how, over the course of human history, alongside seemingly objectively questionable quirks people just brush off (like Japan for a while has been genociding dolphins for their meat value just above extinction “because it’s culture” or how there are people in China who still think dinosaur bones are a form of medicine waiting to be ground up), no group/culture has kept their innocence intact, every country having had genocides or unnecessary wars or something of the like, things they ALLOW to happen by design. Then they turn around and tell so-called “cults”, even the ones that have their priorities on straight compared to cultures, that they are pariahs and shouldn’t count on thriving, even though their status is one that doesn’t necessitate gaining any kind of guilt. I was a pariah growing up, almost everyone else revolved around a select few people that seemed in-tune to the culture, and they would say anyone who revolved around people outside the group (me for example) was “following a cult”, and this hurt at the time, but now seeing all the wars going on right now, I might consider this a compliment. My question, even though it by definition might make affirming answerers question whether they are pariahs or a part of the cultural arena, is why does nobody agree? Why are cultures “always precious” while cults are “always suspicious”?
RememberTheApollo_Most intrusive?
It think it’s probably a relatively common one: you’re at height, with access to the precipice, and your brain starts entertaining the possibility of jumping. Nothing compelling about it, in fact my rational brain always tells the stupid part “WTF, bro…” but nonetheless, the thought exists.
Jumping in bodies of water and letting the water carry me away. It’s a weird mix of “appel du vide” and the urge to be cleansed.
That I’d somehow developed Alzheimer’s in my 20s