“NYT and other outlets try to *manifest* ‘Biden’s dropping out’ like it’s WMDs in Iraq”
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From @MisuseCase: https://twit.social/@MisuseCase/112723886098891150
I think I said months ago that #Biden should take an adversarial stance with much of the mainstream press for a variety of reasons. After seeing the #NYT and other outlets try to *manifest* “Biden’s dropping out” like it’s WMDs in Iraq, I’m even more certain that it’s the smart thing for him to do.
Love Biden or loathe him, it’s important to recognize the political ratfuckery going on: this whole “Biden dropping out” thing is being astroturfed. It’s a pitch that targets the left and is appealing to the left — but it is not coming from the left.
Before jumping on that bandwagon, take a moment to ask who’s steering it. Because it’s not you.
Who •is• steering that bandwagon?
I don’t know, but whoever it is, they’re holding the NYT’s leash.
The genius of this ploy is that a hypothetical candidate is •always• better than a real one. One person gets to picture Bernie, the next person gets to picture…I don’t know, Bloomberg or whatever, and they can both think they agree.
It’s so seductive. It even has a grain of truth: yeah, lots about Biden •does• suck; yeah, Iraq really •did• have chemical weapons at one point. That’s why it’s crucial to recognize all this as an aluminum-tubes-style ploy with an agenda, per the OP.
To be crystal clear here, because a few reply guys are reeeeeally struggling with this thought:
Just because you •agree• with the idea on the surface doesn’t mean the people •behind• the idea have your interests at heart.
Yes, you thought it on your very own. Yes, you like the idea. Yes, it appeals to you. That’s the point. I’m asking you to look at •who• is making that appeal, who is plastering this message across the MSM. Because •that• is not you.
Whoever it is, they’re not making the same case about Trump. That’s the tell. Taken in totality, Trump’s age, mental incoherence, demonstrated incompetence, moral depravity, criminal record, electoral failure, and outright •fascism• give far more reason for him to drop out.
Whoever’s pulling the strings of the NYT and its ilk, they are very clearly pulling in one specific direction. Think twice about whether you want to help them pull.
Stop with the replacement shit. It's an op. But her emails, is now replace him. See how easy you are controlled. You are a useful idiot. Damn the op is easy. Look at all the help from democrats. You've seen this before. Do not be part of the op. jfc
Further clarification: There are three distinct questions here.
1. Does there exist some candidate who could do better than Biden if they were •already• the Dem nominee?
2. Would switching candidates midstream •now• help the situation? Even be logistically feasible?
3. Should we trust the forces that have pushed item 2 to the top of the news, even above the SCOTUS going full Trump-can-be-a-dictator?
The answers are:
1. Probably.
2. Highly unlikely.
3. Certainly not.
More on this topic, succinctly stated by @StillIRise1963:
They’re DIVIDING US about Biden’s fitness so they CAN WIN. WHY THE FUCK IS THIS HARD 10 YEARS LATER. DUMMIES.
@inthehands I would clarify that 2 is two-part, and the answers are "highly unlikely" and "absolutely not"
I think some hypothetical replacement would miss the deadline to even be on the ballot in some states, which is ... not exactly a recipe for electoral success.
Also money. The Biden campaign has a lot of it. Trouble is that it belongs to the Biden campaign, and there are laws about campaign finances. It would be a tall fucking order to raise enough in time. Basically impossible.
@inthehands It's like you learned nothing from 2016 do you remember 2016? If the Dems run Biden they are asking to lose. At that point I start asking... Are they incapable of learning and high on their own echo chamber or are they trying to throw the election? The left has absolutely been begging to get rid of Gen-o-cide Joe, is this push coming from them, no, but that doesn't matter.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/02/post-debate-polls-bad-news-biden-00166395
Personally, I think if a candidate who was a genuinely decent person could be brought in tomorrow, a lot of people might actually get pretty excited-- so many of us hate this entire situation so very, very much. So I have a bit more optimism on number 2.
But 3 is slam-dunk fucking obvious. Nobody should trust the NYT with a damn thing. There's an agenda here, and even IF there was any possibility of a better candidate (there isn't while the system has anything to say about it; they'd probably sooner shoot one who got anywhere near) the NYT's narrative would STILL be more hurt than help.
Anytime the media starts shouting about anything this consistently and this loudly, I swear I can smell that fresh vinyl astroturf agenda smell.
Hah in another thread just saw someone suggesting the NYT step aside for a fitter, more coherent paper.
@inthehands Well, point #2 got smashed the last couple of days.
I really think what was driving it was MI polling, along with that primary "none of these candidates" majority. Bleeding out the black vote is also bleeding out young voters, except young people don't pick up the phone to get polled. Palestine was/is an election-breaker.
That said, I've been done with the NYT for about a year. Our press is profit-driven because so much is, thanks to the last 40 years.
@inthehands A lot of what you said was absolutely correct. It was an attack. Just because things feel sunny now doesn't mean this isn't going to get ugly. Those folks and forces you cite are not, IMO, going to play clean, or necessarily be predictable.
It rather bothers me that we don't have a statement, or news, about why, exactly, Biden decided not to run. On the other hand, I'm not the strategist.
We've got our row to hoe, that's for sure.
@inthehands Trump is and will remain the exemplar and chief proponent of the reactionary Republican policy agenda: cruel, corrupt, criminal, and hostile to the idea of public goods or social benefit.
Biden has a VP qualified to assume leadership when necessary, and whatever the rest of his faults, feckless Democrats can eventually be persuaded to govern to the will of the public.
There is no realistic alternative to electing more and better Democrats at all levels.
@inthehands the NYT is a bit different in that it is smaller than virtually ALL of the big name US "news" groups…on the stock market.
All the MSM are *business* ventures of ginormous corporations. And ALL are publicly traded on the stock market. Which sounds bad enough, but there's more:
the same gigantic institutional investor groups own enough shares in -all- of them to wreak havoc if they divest.... check the stocks for yourself. It's bad. Fox (NWS), CNN (WBD), all the NBCs (CMCSA) etc.
don't take my word for it.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/bernie-sanders-warns-that-the-u-s-is-at-risk-democracy-will-not-survive/ss-BB1jjhMU
"Sanders singled out BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street. In his tweet, he explained that these three Wall Street firms manage trillions in wealth. All three also are major shareholders in the 500 largest companies in the United States."
Those guys all have millions of shares in virtually ALL the corps that own "news product lines" that millions of people still ingest.
Funny, this stuff is hard to find, wonder why that is.
@inthehands @paninid Here’s what I don’t understand: what exactly does the NYT think Trump would do to the paper that is the iconic East-coast elite personification of “woke” if he gets re-elected? The guy to whom the Supreme Court just handed unchecked executive power?
Or are they trying to lick some boots in case he does?
@inthehands Here's another way you can tell it isn't coming from within the Democratic Party: the most vocal people aren't also calling for Kamala Harris as the replacement.
Black women are a core constituency of the Democratic Party. To the extent that such a diverse party has any "base", being such a big, intersectional tent, the base is Black women.
So any sane, senior, experienced Democratic politician would simply be saying "Kamala Harris is Biden's handpicked successor".
@dgodon Whether some alternative person would have been better is a very different question from whether switching now makes any sense at all.
On that latter question, I don’t trust Sirota two inches. He’s a lousy tactical thinker, and consistently has trouble distinguishing his own strong reactions from sound strategy.
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Why are we not talking about the former president on the bat phone to Russia? Why are we letting him undermine US negotiations to get people out who held prisoner?
Does anyone remember Reagan and his dirty tricks before the election? I bet Biden does.
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