william.maggosGetting people to embrace #ccmusic is like getting them to embrace the #SocialWeb. Logically, there's no reason not to. But because it's still not well understood or embraced and the tech around it could improve somewhat, it's not automatic. It's something you should advocate for but maybe not too hard. It will happen.
free ideas@wjmaggos I had a similar thought yesterday looking for music. I have noticed though some of the more well known cc artists moving to their work to more subscription based platforms.
we need a decentralized Spotify tied to a decentralized way to pay them automatically based on how much we listen.
@wjmaggos support is key. Unique time to lead in better directions with tech. Im putting thought into these ideas as the fediverse, foss community, etc have a lot in common with non profits need to fundraise and share similar tools & resources.
Doug Whitfield [Minneapolis]If you want to move this forward within @[email protected], you need to find someone to be the musician coalition/union leader, as @bsots is for curators (although I would like to find someone to be specific for #netlabels, but that is not high priority).
I'm not sure who exactly is looking to make money via music. David Rovics immediately comes to mind, but politically might not be a good look. Perhaps @ryno could put out a call on his show. There are others that could too. lmk if u need names
ryno@musicman @friendsofccmusic @bsots streaming is not the way to make money in music. We have all heard the horror stories. It comes down to having people who care and are willing to support. I think the secret is minimizing the effort to support and encouraging others to support. @wjmaggos that and getting others to listen.
@ryno @[email protected] @bsots @wjmaggos
I 100% would like a cc-only music platform that isn't trying to compete with #TribeofNoise and #Jamendo just like the old #FMA, but we're 11 days away from Netlabel Day and we don't have the DJ schedule set for the day. Is 11 days enough time to finish it, sure, but it's not like people are beating down the door to get involved. Operating a streaming website on that scale is going to require 10s of thousands of dollars a year, if not 100s.
@ryno @[email protected] @bsots @wjmaggos even decentralised, it's still 10x$10k or 100x1k. There's no way you slice it where this works right now and as far as paying musicians, there's not even a musician involved in this conversation currently. We need to do some basic user testing/stories and stuff. I think this is maybe a 10-year-plan sort of project, though I'd be happy for someone to push this across the finish line sooner.
@ryno @[email protected] @bsots @wjmaggos the shift from download culture to streaming culture is what killed FMA. like many brand collapses it isn't the only thing. could they have weathered the storm if they had a better backend? maybe.
at some we need to figure out how complete archive.orgs database is.
perhaps a database of links would be useful. I think Starfrosh might already have that but not be branded as such. excited to see what @blocsonic comes up with with Eqlze