Inside of two weeks, SCOTUS has given itself authority to:
- cancel legislation it doesn't like
- overrule regulatory bodies it doesn't agree with
- and after the fact legalize actions taken by a President.
Given that it's already got final say on the actions of the rest of the judiciary, that now consolidates the power of all three branches of American government under the authority of the Supreme Court.
In other words? It's a judicial coup.
Revolutions have been fought over less.
He has immunity for much more than that. I think he is too weak to take the steps necessary to resolve this though.
@the_Effekt @ArneBab Again - he doesn't.
What's an official act? Who decides that? Show me the law that says the President can *redacted* SCOTUS members because if you can't? That's up to a judge to decide; and oh btw? SCOTUS can override any judge in the land if they want to hear the appeal.
@AnarchoNinaWrites Can the SCOTUS decide on their own firing?
After they were fired?
The executive orders of the president can do quite a lot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order#Legal_conflicts
@the_Effekt
"In 1935, the Supreme Court overturned five of Franklin Roosevelt's executive orders (6199, 6204, 6256, 6284a and 6855)"
Very first line of your own link.
@AnarchoNinaWrites These didn’t throw out the SCOTUS. Are they the SCOTUS, if the president threw them out?
On the other hand: would then the rule of law take the final nail in its coffin and civil war break out?
And will that happen anyway if Trump wins?
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That's what they've been discussing up and down, left to right on CNN in a circular fashion just minutes ago and none of that matters, because, well, SCOTUS ultimately will decide whatever the hell they want and deem to be in favour of MAGA fascists.
I mean - sure it's hard to swallow, but that's a coup d'état, done by SCOTUS. Nothing less will fit.
@GNUmatic sounds like the CIA playbook of South America, but now turned against democracy in the USA.
And no, this does not mean that it’s OK!
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Yes, even though fascist playbook would be more to my taste, but in the end it doesn't matter. The rich will get their way and the fascists can do whatever the hell they want.
I mean - go kill somebody, pretend it was done in order to MAGA, appeal to SCOTUS and I'm sure they will declare that not only to be your constitutional right, but make it your duty.
@GNUmatic In related news: Hungary took over leadership of the EU for 6 month. They set the slogan for those 6 months:
Make Europe Great Again.
That does not feel good.
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@GNUmatic While we’re on the topic:
If you have friends who are democrat and they don’t run #Freenet / #Hyphanet yet: now’s the time to invite them.
https://www.hyphanet.org/pages/download.html
Remind them that we also wouldn’t have expected that we’d need Hyphanet for information about #Abortion:
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Bookmarked. Very likely a requirement for a lot more really soon. /o\
@DrOtto @GNUmatic @the_Effekt @ArneBab My friend, are you seriously trying to tell me that the same administration that just passed a bunch of laws to PROTECT Scotus judges and punish protestors with federal time after Dobbs, are going to ignore the court?
What if a magic unicorn showed up and farted so hard Trump and all 6 fascist SCOTUS judges died?
We can do this all day.
@DrOtto @GNUmatic @the_Effekt @ArneBab It's happened twice. Andrew Jackson said "no I'm going to genocide these Indigenous People anyway and fuck you." And FDR said "if you keep fucking with my ability to govern I will pack so many pinkos onto this court it might end capitalism."
We're a little short on folks in power willing to do that.
On CNN they still contemplate the future of democracy (think "sugar") and I wonder what future that would be, because the U.S. is long past even the low calorie, sweetener-style representative mockery of a democracy giving you a weird taste and no nutritional value. There simply is no democratic future under *current* fascist SCOTUS MAGA rule.
@AnarchoNinaWrites that’s why I was mentioning Andrew Jackson. The Supreme Court told him to leave the Cherokee alone and he just ignored them. Roosevelt got close enough to doing the same about the new deal where the court just started agreeing with him a lot more. A bit too much tbh (see Japanese internment).
Of course I’d rather take that approach for less disgusting reasons.
@AnarchoNinaWrites tl;dr all politics are about power relations
🌎🧑🚀🔫🧑🚀 Always have been.
@AnarchoNinaWrites I hope that you're wrong and we can pull things off the brink without things getting to that, but it's hard to be optimistic about it lately.
I guess the proof will be on whether the vast majority of folks who aren't thinking too hard about this get enough of an idea to keep things from going over the cliff come voting time (and agreed that by itself won't fix much).
@AnarchoNinaWrites Unfortunately the "stuff the court" constituency has gotten nowhere near majority numbers although it would be the least disruptive way to fix the problem quickly.
But the Roosevelt years do show that the court can and will walk back if the alternative is for everyone to just don't give a damn about what they say.
@AnarchoNinaWrites Nah it's a good conversation, I'm just looking it in a more "how would we go about fixing this without the revolution" kind of way.
Technically speaking this could be sorted out in half a week by a Congress that actually cared about enforcing its own power, but there's too many folks there who benefit or whose circle of friends benefit from the status quo, so I guess it's going to be revolution or close to it 🤷🏻♂️
@MyLittleMetroid @AnarchoNinaWrites And if Arthur, son of Uther, Rightful King of All England came back from a Avalon, he could reinstate Camelot and save England from their current government.
Both this example and yours are equally likely, as neither "hero" exists in this world.
@peteriskrisjanis I'm not worried about your property or whether or not your kids get IPads.
Thanks and good day.
@peteriskrisjanis I don't really know why you're telling me shit I already know that has very little to do with what I'm saying.
Do, or die. If people want to choose "die" there's not much I can do for them.
Thanks and good day.
Edit: also "more motivated to vote?" Gimme a break mate, the planet is literally boiling, we're surrounded by nazis and rich people who own our states and politicians are installing feudalism. If your solution is "vote" you have no solution. Go tell someone else.
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