What’s more likely:
A grand conspiracy that’s lasted for 50 years, that somehow has infected every branch of govt, but somehow still doesn’t guarantee victory in elections, presidential and otherwise.
Democrats are less corrupt.
It’s funny, the guy below you at the time of my reply is basically saying that without the /s.
By the way, nice to see you again!
obama bombed the fuck out of syria and no one batted an eye. all technically legal.
biden is signing some hefty sums to israel, pretty sure thats legal too.
so, like, yeah maybe.
Imagine how much of a criminal you have to be to end up arrested in a system where you have the advantage as a political criminal tho.
That’s how messed up the Republicans are
Which party do I vote for that stops spending money on weapons or war?
Or, at the very fucking least, spent less money on weapons or war than the year before?
Which party do I vote for that stops spending money on weapons or war?
Probably one of the third parties running who they are encouraging you not to “waste” your vote on
More importantly than president: Down ballot. Start with your local representative and non federal positions. Local elections usually have less party lines and you may find political alignment there.
The Presidency is mostly a sock puppet for the military industrial complex. We aren’t catching lightning in a bottle there.
The Presidency is mostly a sock puppet for the military industrial complex. We aren’t catching lightning in a bottle there.
So, just to be clear, in matters involving the military industrial complex, both parties are the same?
Like the original post is asking to be reminded about in a snarky fashion obviously trying to imply that there is no way they’re the same?
What does bipartisan mean again?
I apparently have to absolutely clear here.
The OP meme is mocking people claiming that the two parties are the same, because in one field (The number of convictions) they aren’t.
The OP meme mockingly asks people to tell it again how the parties are the same.
I’m LITERALLY doing that. And your response is “Yep, they are the same on that issue.”
Sorry, I misread your comment as sarcastic.
I apologize for responding to you as I did.
Here you go:
As a non-american just watching the democratic shitshow I can’t believe why on earth there are only two parties. If the parties are fucked up, build a new one. That’s what democracy is made for.
Macrons party in France was fresh up from the ground at his first election.
PS. I’m aware that France is a bad example actually, but the fact about his party is still true.
First past the post elections. If we had ranked choice or runoff elections, more parties would appear.
Instead, in FPTP, every vote that is not for one of the two highest-polling candidates is objectively a wasted vote, since the game theory makes the possibility of a third party gaining enough votes to win in any single election nearly infinitesimal. So instead of many parties, all candidates self-sort into one of the two viable parties.
So what about primaries? The primary system decides the candidates, but even that is a game-theory-laden mess, because primary voters have to guess which will perform better in a FPTP general election and often vote against their ideal candidate in the hopes of winning the general.
In short, until we structurally reform elections to be ranked/STAR/runoff/etc to remove the punitive effect of voting for your actual ideal candidate, we’re stuck with a prisoner’s dilemma election every time.
As a non-american just watching the democratic shitshow I can’t believe why on earth there are only two parties.
In a lot of cases, there’s only one real functioning party. Smaller states and gerrymandered districts tend to have a single dominant party and a secondary dissident party, with the dominant party controlling all the statewide offices and most of the legislative seats, while the dissident party controls some number of municipal seats where they have a local majority.
Macrons party in France was fresh up from the ground at his first election.
Macron spun En Marche out of the collapsed ruin of Hollande’s Socialist Party (*) (for whom he was deputy secretary general until Hollande’s ouster). He was more akin to Lincoln’s Republicans (who emerged from the wrecked carcass of the American Whig Party) or Theodore Roosevelt’s Bull Moose Party (which might as well have been Republicans For Roosevelt Party, given how badly Wilson rocked both him and Taft).
(*) don’t get too existed. they were pretty thin on actual socialism.
Le Penn’s National Front has a real foundation (of French fascists) that existed before she started mobilizing the party and will stick around after she’s gone. Similarly the New Popular Front (not to be confused with The People’s Front of Judea rimshot) has a broad coalition of support that transcends any one leader. Both are more in line with a traditional American party.
Looks like I know shit about French politics, thanks, TIL.
Btw. maybe it needs a strong movement to create a real third party. A workers union for example, there is a lot of potential if they unite. BLM, too. America had strong movements in the past but none of them went into a political party, sadly.
They aren’t the same. They are bad in different ways. One side are corporate shills who are looking to depress the power of workers the other wants to kill blacks, lgbtqa+, Latinos and turn women into sex slave baby machines.
One is clearly worse and we should vote against them, but don’t tell me the Democrats aren’t bad.