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Tristan SnellJoe Biden has one subpar debate, and the New York Times calls for him to drop out.
Donald Trump got convicted of 34 felonies, and the New York Times said nothing.
ThrawntheChiss@tristansnell Who gives a f***k what the NY Times thinks? It’s just a cesspool of mercenary propagandists. Long may its slide into irrelevance be!
Bruce Heerssen 
@ThrawntheChiss @tristansnell
Can we get a sudden and catastrophic dive into the trash heap of history instead? I'd find that much more satisfying.
Can we get a sudden and catastrophic dive into the trash heap of history instead? I'd find that much more satisfying.
@bruce Actually me too! @tristansnell
Stargeezer Smith@tristansnell
The evidence is clear.
It's time for the NYT to drop out. They served a purpose in the pre-Trump world, they serve no useful purpose now.
dogzilla@stargazersmith @FrankFrank @tristansnell Drop out? They’re currently making more money than anytime in the past 20 years, maybe ever. It’s not about purpose - it never was
Frances LarinaIs this the same NYT that keeps running Republican hit pieces against trans people?
James M.@tristansnell and apparently they wrote at least one of their many pieces slamming Biden's debate performance several days BEFORE the debate, based on the date in the URL:
https://bsky.app/profile/donferrari.bsky.social/post/3kvxjvcevpq2c
https://bsky.app/profile/donferrari.bsky.social/post/3kvxjvcevpq2c
Bernie Luckily Does It@jamesmarshall @tristansnell I'm not surprised. Most big news organizations write a few variations of these kinds of story ahead of time, fill in the appropriate details in the variation that ends up being closest, and then publish it. That way they can have the story up faster. Chances are pretty good they had something pretty similar written about Trump.
@jamesmarshall @tristansnell Incidentally, that's why so many political articles sound so similar. They're basically paint-by-number templates.
Bob Horowitz@tristansnell Been more and more frustrated with the NY Times this past year. Today, finally, I canceled my subscription. I've had it with them. And CNN.
Stoney Takes@BobHorowitz @tristansnell Insane that CNN led with “shaky performance, Biden ought to be replaced.” Instead of “Trump continues to spew easily refutable lies everywhere he goes; rallies, interviews, courtrooms or debates”. Silver lining?Newsweek article with a tiny sample size found some folks saying they’re supporting Biden now, and claim they were on the fence prior. https://www.newsweek.com/latino-voters-donald-trump-joe-biden-debate-election-1918795
@Stoneycase @tristansnell Yup. The Times, CNN, and others who should know better keep showing bias in the lede and miss the big picture. Newsweek has surprised me recently though.
@BobHorowitz @tristansnell My initial concern was that it would cause undecideds to lean the other way. I’m even skeptical about people being on the fence. Was glad to at least see that article prove me wrong.
DRBLD2009@tristansnell We should have prosecuted Trump years ago. This is gonna get worse.
2¢@tristansnell yeah, it was an anomaly.
PerryM ✅Calling last nights debate just "subpar" is quite an understatement. I can forgive his performance but not his decision to debate Trump and give him credibility and air time! The President of the United States didn't need to debate a felon for any reason.
Jason the Big@tristansnell This cannot be emphasized enough
Bakunin Boys@tristansnell I feel like there's a lot left in between the lines, the NY times are just not saying what everyone knows already.
If you're in the market for a Trump, you want someone who sucks at their job. You want them to tear down whatever government exists or be ineffective at it. You want the machinery to operate without Trump's involvement when you want it to work, and you want it to operate with Trump's involvement when you want it to fail. The 34 felonies are a feather in his cap.
If you're in the market for a Biden, you need someone capable. If Trump's ideal is a dunce, Biden's ideal is a high achiever. That's obviously much harder to pull off. Biden in his first term could pull off a solid B- performance with a few A+s thrown in there, but in the debate it's clear that his A+ days are behind him, and his B- is starting to look a lot more like a C-.
As a publication the NY Times has a lot of problems, but they're right about one thing: There are people looking for a Trump, but no one is looking for a Biden.
EDIT: I wrote this before knowing Trump shat his pants during the debate. I now regret ever trying to understand any of what's going on. There is no catharsis here, only screaming.
Keri Ford@tristansnell Biden has been a good President, Trump was a terrible one and has promised to be worse as he says he was "too nice" during his term. Biden is old and he's been competent, but if Biden becomes incapacitated what happens? Kamala Harris becomes the first US woman President, are Democrats afraid of that? Definitely think she'd be a better President than Trump.
Sean@tristansnell
There's also been a whole lot of hidin'-Biden for the past few years, so when he is shown to the public it undercuts all the reporting about how sharp he is behind the scenes. It's not just the one #debate performance, it's the 3 years of underwater approval polling. It's the lackluster and consistent polling in swing states that despite or because of the convictions (that should have been brought ASAP not only after #Trump announced) #Biden seems to be losing. #election2024
There's also been a whole lot of hidin'-Biden for the past few years, so when he is shown to the public it undercuts all the reporting about how sharp he is behind the scenes. It's not just the one #debate performance, it's the 3 years of underwater approval polling. It's the lackluster and consistent polling in swing states that despite or because of the convictions (that should have been brought ASAP not only after #Trump announced) #Biden seems to be losing. #election2024
atticus1956@tristansnell The NYT not unlike the WAPO has become a conservative rag of claptrap and falsehoods. Soon, they will both appear only on the endcaps of grocery checkout lines alongside the National Enquirer!
Diligence Jones
Lou Katz@tristansnell Facts and reality do not win. If they did, all the religions in the world would have vanished a long time ago.
chris@tristansnell
Even the supposedly liberal NPR gets it so very, very wrong: https://social.fedihost.website/@chris/statuses/01J1F5GCW39R0JB9B33A1AEEBZ
Even the supposedly liberal NPR gets it so very, very wrong: https://social.fedihost.website/@chris/statuses/01J1F5GCW39R0JB9B33A1AEEBZ
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The way in which a thing is framed by media is as important as what is said about the thing or even whether the media is willing to cover the thing. Here's People's Exhibit 1. I just saw a news story on npr.org, stating that President Joe Biden and former president Donald Trump had a debate ...
Debbie Belair@tristansnell What a stupid world we live in! 🤡
Jacob@tristansnell Trump and his supporters don’t read NYT so there’s really no point. NYT readers aren’t concerned with how to feel about Trump’s conviction, they are concerned with how to feel about Biden’s performance.
Mongezi Biya@tristansnell I'm nowhere near the USA and I'm wondering if there isn't anyone else who can run with Biden's policies. Someone younger. At this stage I see the encouragement of him to run for another term as Elder Abuse. Yes, he has the best care, he is needed for the DP, he is sure he can do it, but when and who gets to say he's had enough?
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Selling news papers
Selling news papers
Andy Wootton@tristansnell I think the problem is that people expect Democrats to be better, like they do women. People who lead on selfishness and immorality are expected to be 'a bit crap all the time'. Trump still manages to go lower but his "base" appear to like that.
J Λ M Ξ S@tristansnell the article was written on the 25th too, before the debate. you can see it in the URL.
KarenTurley@tristansnell, it's sickening the way the right rallies around their candidates, regardless of how sick, horrible, or insane they are, while we on the left-ish side of the aisle are ready to eat our own at a moment's notice.
I'm so tired of these feckless morons.
I'm so tired of these feckless morons.
djsf@tristansnell guessing that if Trump becomes irrelevant they lose viewers so they want him to stay relevant for as long as possible bc SHAREHOLDERS WANT NUMBER GO UP💀
somecanuckchick@tristansnell NYT wrote that article BEFORE the debate, according to the timestamp.