🧵 1/2 #Biden

“I know I’m not a young man, to the state the obvious. Well, I know I don’t walk as easy as I used to, I don’t speak as smoothly as I used to, I don’t debate as well as I used to, but I know what I do know. I know how to tell the truth..

I know right from wrong. I know how to do this job. I know how to get things done. I know, like millions of Americans, I know, when you get knocked down, you get back up.

2/ “Folks, I give you my word as a Biden, I would not be running again if I didn’t believe with all my heart and soul I can do this job. Because, quite frankly, the stakes are too high.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/jun/27/presidential-debate-trump-biden-updates?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Biden acknowledges shaky debate performance and vows to stay in race: ‘when you get knocked down, you get back up’ – as it happened

Biden acknowledged in campaign speech that he is indeed old, but says he believes he can still beat the Trump in the November election

the Guardian

3/ Let's make this the narrative.

Let's push this so that it smothers the BS doomsday stuff.

Thanks.

4/ Via Stephen Fowler:

The crowd chants “yes you can!”

5/ Via Acyn:

Biden: We learned that Trump will not respect this year’s election outcome. Three times Trump was asked would he respect the election results…

Biden: For all his lies, we learned some important truths about Trump last night. We learned he’s still proud to be the person that killed Roe V Wade…

6/ Via Angry Staffer:

Need more of this Biden going forward.

Obviously, last night wasn’t a great showing, but I’m voting for substance and his record, not a 90 minute debate.

Biden: I don’t know what you did last night but I spent 90 minutes on a stage debating guy who has the moral of an alley cat. My guess is he set a new record for the most lies told in a single debate.

7/ Fowler:

Biden, still with a cough and slight hoarse voice, is a complete 180 in energy and attentiveness from last night’s debate, feeding off the crowd.

8/ Biden: The only convicted criminal on that stage was Trump. When I thought about his 34 convictions, his sexual assault on a woman in a public place, his being fined for business fraud.. I thought to myself Trump is not just convicted felon, he’s a one man crime wave

@GottaLaff

He can't legally run a business in the state he used to call home. He and his children can't legally run a *charity* because of their past crimes.

@GottaLaff Yet he'll likely 'win', the US is a global disaster.
@GottaLaff no need to convince me who the better man is. But last night Joe proved the rap that he is too old. No EXCUSES. Time to step aside.

@kwheaton

You are an idiot.
Blocked.
@GottaLaff

@dbc3 @kwheaton @GottaLaff blocking just because they disagree seems like an overreaction?
@kwheaton Totally disagree.
@GottaLaff that is fine. I am very, very concerned. He has aged 20 years in the last 4. That spells potential disaster in the next 4. I am not convinced that he can win, nor is Joe our best chance. Its okay that we have different opinions. It should not lead to my crucifiction.

@kwheaton @GottaLaff

The weakness shown by stepping aside would hand the election to Trump.

Joe has done more for progressive causes than any president since Kennedy. The doomsaying is a bigger problem than one iffy debate performance. Step off the cliff and take a breath.

But if you were looking for an excuse to vote for Trump, well this is weak sauce but ok, you do you.

@Magooish @kwheaton @GottaLaff , better yet. Just compare cabinets. Trump's cabinet was full of people quitting, getting fired, going to prison, or even if they were depraved enough to stay, denounced him at the end. He won't even be running with his original VP. Trump stewards chaos and dysfunction.

@soundconjurer @kwheaton @GottaLaff yup, he’s a chaos agent.

But he’s also stupid in some frightening ways due to his malignant narcissism. You can compliment him into doing almost anything.

His gift, if I could call it one - is his ability to doublespeak anything. It’s a rare thing but apparently attractive to a certain kind of personality. That has served him well his whole life, but it’s a hollow gift and eventually the malignancy reveals itself.

@soundconjurer @Magooish @GottaLaff i am not saying Trump is a decent person. I am saying that the Democrats have been civering for Biden and need to seriously consider making a change not out of disloyalty but out of what is best for the survival of the Democracy. Where everyone is arguing the odds are to great if Joes steps aside that we lose. I see the odds greater that we lose if he doesn't. But hell we are democrats we always shoot ourselves in the foot.

@kwheaton @soundconjurer @GottaLaff

It’s not about Biden at the end of the day. It’s about Trump.

He’s going to focus on a weakness, that’s his Mo. what we are not good at is the kind of manipulation he and his minions excel at no matter who is the nominee.
No one else can beat him. If Biden can’t, no one can.

@Magooish @soundconjurer @GottaLaff i wish I had your confidence. I don't. And I do think there are others who can beat Trump. Many.

@kwheaton I’m muting this convo out of frustration.

The PROCESS and timing of putting up a new candidate would doom us. (in June or later). The possible candidates too! THAT IS THE POINT that is being ignored. Lawrence explained it. LISTEN.

@Magooish @soundconjurer

@GottaLaff @Magooish @soundconjurer i don't necessarily think so. Can you think of anything that would garner more coverage, excitement and enthusiasm than an open convention. I can't. For 4 years news coverage of Biden has been abysmal. I will keep an open mind. But I think the rest of you should as well. Sometimes we need to be bold and operate frim a place of strength. I feel as if people are arguing to drag Joe's half dead body over the finish line. That isn't where we should be.

@kwheaton @GottaLaff @soundconjurer

I’ve said my piece. You have made your position clear. I think we are done here.

@kwheaton @soundconjurer @GottaLaff

It’s ok to have doubts. At the end of the day those doubts may or may not be resolved, but they will need to be set aside.

One team.
One candidate
One vote.

Don’t pick on personalities. Pick on issues. Make that your focus. Because that’s really what’s at stake here and age and a bad debate are not.

Once we win in November if you want to call for him to step aside, that’s the time. For now it’s about hard teamwork.

@Magooish @GottaLaff as I said elsewhere I would not vote for Trump under any circumstance, EVER. I have voted Democratic for over 5 decades. I have been a staunch supporter of Joe Biden even as I disagree with his stance in the Gaza Genocide. But the debate was not just a BAD night it showed his age. I cannot believe he is the only person who could beat Trump. It makes me fear he can't. This election is TOO IMPORTANT. He is capable now--but in a year? Two? #democrats
@kwheaton I hope you watched Lawrence last night. I’ll try to find it and post. @Magooish

@kwheaton @GottaLaff I’m going to compartmentalize here for a moment.

A year or two isn’t the issue right now. All that matters right this moment is beating Trump. Without that a year or two won’t matter, because it’s game over.

I prefer longer thinking myself, as you do. In a million other circumstances you and I would be thinking similarly. Just don’t have the luxury, unfortunately.

@Magooish @GottaLaff my issue is can Biden win. I am not convinced he can.
@GottaLaff
It's appalling, all the hand-wringing after one bad night.

@GottaLaff

This was a TV show. Trump will win every time.

Biden should not have agreed to this. Now he has to step aside.

Liberal voters need to leave their Red States and move to a Swing State.

@BlueWall All of that is completely unrealistic.

Muting.

@GottaLaff

Moral of an alley cat... At least an alley cat isn't going to lie to you about where it's going to piss.

The prevailing opinion is much more measured and sensible than it was right after the debate last night. A more careful look about Trump lying every time he opened his mouth, Gish Galloping away, with a much more substantial consideration overall, and seeing Biden more in his element has to be a major upswing.

@GottaLaff That’s a gratuitous and inexcusable insult to alley cats everywhere.

Here, as some small recompense…

https://youtu.be/mbAyj1h9vI0?si=bQmV1wqwxdg2Kdbn

Stray Cats - Stray Cat Strut

YouTube
@GottaLaff the difference between Debate Joe and Rally Joe is astounding! He’s still my guy but sure wish we had Rally Joe last night
@GottaLaff There you go, insulting alley cats! Give alley cats a BREAK! They pee in alleys, not gold toilets!
@GottaLaff
Biden- next debate: " I can only answer that question as the one person in the debate who is not a rapist and convicted felon."
@GottaLaff 👀 a new rallying cry? let’s hope so.
@GottaLaff , I like ''one man crime wave'' as a repeated slogan.
@GottaLaff , "revenge and retribution never built a damned thing" is also a good tagline.

@Dr_Elizabeth97 @GottaLaff strong appearance from start to finish. I also liked the part about how Americans get back up after they get knocked down

America loves a comeback story

@dannotdaniel, yep, not to mention the playing of "I won't back down" at the end.