Don’t use “Outlook (new)” in #Windows 11. I just did a tcpdump and looked also at my #mail servers when setting up an account in there. The mail client only spoke with Microsoft-servers, never with my mail-servers and I saw on my mail-servers only connections from Microsoft-IPs.
@nielsk So would it make sense to block MS on submission and IMAP ports? What legitimate business could they have?

@unixtippse @nielsk

It sounds like they proxy all the connections so all the mail passes through their servers. I wonder how long they keep it? I guess everyone’s emails become grist for AI.

I wonder what their terms of service say about that?

@railmeat @unixtippse I dunno. But it is more less the same what they do with the mobile Outlook-clients

@nielsk @unixtippse

I guess that is the world we live in now. Not really my preference.

Yet another reason to move my computing to self hosted and possibly Linux.

@railmeat @nielsk @unixtippse If we don't stop companies from implementing toxic business culture, it will get worse. Someday we will live in a world we don't really want to live in. We will no longer own anything, not even our data.
Too many people don't care and even defend these companies.

@mrcool @railmeat @nielsk @unixtippse

Agreed, except for the word 'someday'.

It will get worse for sure, but that's already the world we live in.

@Tom @railmeat @nielsk @unixtippse You are right. Even I can see how I'm slowly getting used to it. And that's how it will continue. Small steps, so that people don't realize that their rights and their data are gradually being taken away from them.