Mozilla's Original Sin.

Some will tell you that Mozilla's worst decision was to accept funding from Google, and that may have been the first domino, but I hold that implementing DRM is what doomed them, as it led to their culture of capitulation. It demonstrated that their decisions were the decisions of a *company shipping products*, not those of a non-profit devoted to preserving the open web.

Those are different things and are very much in conflict. [...]
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Mozilla's Original Sin

Some will tell you that Mozilla's worst decision was to accept funding from Google, and that may have been the first domino, but I hold that implementing DRM is what doomed them, as it led to their culture of capitulation. It demonstrated that their decisions were the decisions of a company shipping products, not those of a non-profit devoted to preserving the open web. Those are different ...

@jwz disagree. I know many ppl that would or could not use Firefox if they hadn’t and like this it’s a viable alternative. What do the gazilion Mozilla/netscape/firefox or chromium forks/alternatives do for the open web because they disable drm or replaced / removed other functionality? Not much.
@fl0_id "But some people would not have used Firefox" is exactly the argument for market share over principles that got us into this mess.
@jwz not ‘some people’ but basically no one would have used it. I don’t disagree that it (engaging with market realities) is also a problem, but that does not mean that the opposite would have been better
@fl0_id @jwz See, we always knew that if Debian didn't include binary kernel drivers, no one would use it. And that's how it faded away into obscurity, and definitely didn't become the basis for multiple of the most popular linux distributions while also itself maintaining a healthy user base.. 🧐
@Andres4NY @fl0_id @jwz Isn’t Ubuntu so popular because it adds back all the stuff Debian didn’t add?
@gullevek @Andres4NY @fl0_id @jwz ubuntu is/was popular because it provides commercial support and containers and other garbage Shiny New Stuff that People Need™ that pollutes the basic philosophy of debian.
Ubuntu didn't include firmware for a very long time and was still the most popular choice.
@wyatt8740 @gullevek @Andres4NY @fl0_id @jwz But Debian provides containers too. They’re really a technology based on the Linux kernel, not the OS.
@jeremiah_ @gullevek @Andres4NY @fl0_id @jwz sure, in that chroots are a container.
I meant flatpak/snap as a way to avoid being responsible