Tasers in the Outfield
Tasers in the Outfield
“Ah yes, someone interrupting the sportsball game. Let’s use a weapon on them that is sometimes fatal. That is an appropriate escalation of force.”
—that policeman probably
Sorry for my off-topic comment/question but I have been curious about this for a while and never got around to asking.
I see you’re on a Mastodon instance but are commenting on a Lemmy post. How can you see Lemmy from your instance? Maybe I need to play with the web interface more, but I usually use my mobile device/apps to access Mastodon (Tusky app) and Lemmy (Boost app). Maybe my apps don’t support seeing Toots from Boost, and seeing Lemmy posts from Tusky.
Is it only possible via a web browser and if so, how? I’m not too familiar with the web interface.
Thanks in advance for any advice you might have on this off-topic!
Edit: I just thought about a possibility… you might be using your Mastodon login in Lemmy (does it allow that?) so when you use lemmy it looks like your browsing from Mastodon but you’re really in Lemmy with a Mastodon account. Is that how it works?
@irreticent I'm only on Mastodon/in the fediverse via browser so I can't comment on app options, sorry.
In my Home feed & Live feed, I see posts from all over and can reply, boost, and/or bookmark w/ only the one login. I can find & follow folks from other instances via basic search, with @ or a name if I know it.
Mastodon dot social has very active moderation. I'm sure posts & instances exist that I will never know about. Hope this helps!
Your comment assumes that there is a reasoning mind inside that uniform, instead of mindless knee-jerk brute force.
And that mindlessness also goes for whoever decides to pull these “I might get tased for this” pranks or dares, just to be a blip on local television for a second or two.
I’m assuming America, lucky the wernt shot.
But I guess this isn’t a school field
<Chuck Woolery smiling cheekily>
“So how did the date end?…”
It’s not got anything to do with sweat. (Actually, that might make it less effective, but I doubt it.)
Tasers get fatal when the person has a heart condition or similar issue. Basically causes your muscles to clench and relax at high frequency rendering you unable to use them.
Sometimes hearts get dysrhythmia, where they stop contracting in a useful/normal fashion (that lub-dub beat.)
It’s the current passing through/near the heart that causes it.
He did the backflip, all that was left to do is snap the bad guy’s neck and save the day. So close!
But I gotta say I really don’t understand what’s happening in the top right image, or the order of events.
Am I the only one here who thinks the cop was justified?
That man needed to be stopped, 100%. No way what he could’ve done on the field to the athletes, and a taser shouldn’t be deadly when used correctly.
As long as it’s not irreversible damage, I don’t see the harm.
That’s on the person illegally (and probably violently) marching into the game, knowing security will stop him, also probably violently.
I just think the person is so incredibly stupid, and should have expected something like that.
I agree, but I’m pretty sure that tasing under normal and proper use shouldn’t kill healthy people (a person running storming a sports game is 100% healthy). Like, if he had stayed tasing him for like 20 seconds then I’d get the outrage, but removing the taser once he’s incapacitated really shouldn’t have major consequences.
And it’s definitely a valid option in the case of a large field like a game stadium, where there’s lots of room for the person to run away rapidly. Once he gets a few meters away from security, he has lots of room to sprint away, and catching him would be really hard.
Idk, I just think it’s really really hard to guard a game once someone broke through security gates.
Lots of room for someone to run away rapidly?
So, like the athlete supposedly in danger would be able to do? Kind of puts a damper on the whole someone was in danger theory you keep trying to push.
This is the same mentality that got a teen shot because he rang the wrong doorbell after getting the address wrong or the man shot for using a driveway to turn around. The world isn’t as dangerous as you’ve made it in your mind.
It’s a bit more like stepping on the road in front of a vehicle that isn’t moving, and then hitting the gas pedal and claiming “shouldn’t have stepped on the road!”. It’s not wrong, but choosing this method to deal with it is simply not necessary.
If a child steals something, is keeping them at gunpoint a proportionate response? Sure, kid shouldn’t steal and just holding someone at gunpoint won’t kill them, but it’s also an unnecessary risk.
I agree, someone holding a very dangerous weapon (baseball cap) should be stopped instantly.
Honestly I think the cop didn’t go far enough, maybe could have called in close air support instead?
You know what’s another dangerous weapon? A fist. And an elbow. And a knee. And a tackle.
People can be dangerous even without weapons. He needed to be stopped immediately, before reaching any non-security personnel.
You’re either 12, or mentally 12.
Either way, bye.
Guess I should tase or shoot all the people that walk past my no trespassing signs instead of just walking out and asking them to leave.
Shit. I think they all had elbows too!
Ah yes, because a stadium with thousands of people is exactly as manageable as your backyard.
Also, saying “tase or shoot people” is ridiculous. Don’t put those in the same category. One is meant to neutralize, the other to kill.
Also also, I like how you disregard completely the point about how they’re running - probably sprinting even. Which is again, much less manageable than your (honestly unreleated) example of “people that walk past my no traspassing signs”.
Seriously, put yourself in the situation for just a second and think again how chill you would’ve been.
Yeah. Every week some fan killed a player before they invented tasers and militarized security.
It’s actually pretty easy to keep your chill if you don’t train yourself to imagine every interaction is life or death.
Shoot any teenagers turning around in your driveway lately?
These guys were at a baseball game right? Those ball players have gloves, bats, balls etc that could all be used for self defense. They are also athletes who are probably in good shape. This was not a threat to their lives or anyone else’s.
Stop letting the fear of possibilities be an excuse to hurt other human beings.
an excuse to hurt other human beings.
I think the person that keeps arguing that this was justified is one of the “the pain is the point” people. They just want to have an excuse to hurt someone.
The career of an athlete on the other team of that idiot’s favorite team?
I can 100% see a crazed fan hitting a player of an opposing team. Security is necessary, and fans barging onto fields should be handled as quickly as possible.