YouTube is currently experimenting with server-side ad injection. This means that the ad is being added directly into the video stream.
This breaks sponsorblock since now all timestamps are offset by the ad times.
For now, I set up the server to detect when someone is submitting from a browser with this happening and rejecting the submission to prevent the database from getting filled with incorrect submissions.
YouTube is currently experimenting with server-side ad injection
wow when/if this reaches me it might be time to break my youtube addiction and say goodbye to google
that thread gives you an idea of the kind of overengineered obfuscated overdone mess the youtube website is
google is going way too far to temporarily inconvenience adblock users
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I am curious how this scummy. Youtube provides a service under the condition that users watch ads. They stop delivering ads seperatly and include them in the main content stream just as TV does.
I know ads can be accessibility issue. But being able to block them never was intended functionality. So where is the scum.
That means that there's a critical mass of people using ad-blocking to trigger YouTube into fighting them.
Ergo, there are a lot of people unhappy with watching ads on YouTube. Honestly, when I watch YouTube without an ad blocker, the experience is horrible.
Ergo, when (and if) YouTube somehow wins that fight, a large number of people will be generally unhappy with YouTube. A certain percentage of them will quit YouTube.
Apparently the math works out (or at least YouTube think that the math works out) that the number of people quitting YouTube will be lower than the number of people who keep watching ads.
I hope they're wrong.
@sponsorblock …wonder if there’s enough metadata exposed to determine new offsets and block the injected ads? like, maybe something can be pulled from the transcript from known good submissions?
probably not accurate enough to make submissions on an injected video work properly, but.
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I really would like to know how much costs all these server and the huge storage.
I agree with the person who said that, if necessary, they will watch a black, silent rectangle with a countdown timer, until the ad has passed.
@sponsorblock you could download videos in advance, or ask people in the archiving scene if they have an archive like this. Then you could extract the timestamps pretty easy.
Another, and probably more realistic approach is, to get the add timestamps from the innertube api. I know for a fact they can be extracted from the progress-bar renderer and if I recall correctly on another more clean place. Ofc this breaks, if YouTube doesn’t transmit the add timestamps at all. But I highly doubt that will be the case, because they are needed to display the skip button and the colored progressbar. Then the algorythm to get the real timestamps would be very easy.
Since I already develop and maintain a music downloader for which I already reversengeneered youtube, I could reversengeneer it for you if you want to.
And @sponsorblock is investing a lot of time and money into playing along with Google's game.
Imagine if all that were spent on improving the user experience on open platforms, so we could stop playing Google's game!
(Yet, thanks for the effort! It sure improves life for YouTube consumers, I just don't consider it sustainable.)
@syphist @sponsorblock #YouTube started to die when #AdPocalypse in 2016 hit and #SmallChannels got collectively punished under false pretenses.
@sponsorblock
Why is every proprietary software / service always like this, tryna to subjugate and screw anyone. Alright I'm quitting YouTube now. Oh wait I can't, I have quitted a long time. My decision was right all along.
I only use newpipe and invidious to make YouTube lost money and protect my privacy.
The day sponsorblock and new pipe give up on YouTube war is the day I bid YouTube adieu.
This sounds like it will affect the download tools like "yt-dlp" too.
I guess I need to brush-up on my com-skipping skills.
@sponsorblock Waow. Funny. I was expecting Youtube for more than 10 years to start doing that, as it would be the only way to insert almost unblockable ads in video streams.
But as long as ads are clickable it's ok as you said.
But in the end they might add unclickable ads... maybe in 10 years :D
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