To be clear, when we said "leave your unwanted junk in the swap shop" we did not mean radioactive material #emfcamp
"First camping festival with an orphan source event" is not a record I particularly wanted, but it is very on brand
@jonty how spicy was/is this source?
@Mexicals Mild, but we would prefer that people that don't know something is radioactive don't tear apart the interesting spicy junk
Tryst ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ :ms_asexual_flag: :ms_cat_grin: (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] 7 uCi (~360,000 Bq) of Americium 241. No idea where they came from or what they are. I just bagged them and locked them away.

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@mistertim @jonty was just about to fire up inkscape to make this with the drake template. ๐Ÿ˜‚
@jonty Iโ€™ll look forward to the Plainly Difficult youtube video on it. I suppose at least it goes with the geiger counter someone got in 2022

@jonty

I've been trying to piece this together from posts alluding to what's happening. Someone brought a bunch of (presumably low-activity or even completely decayed and sealed) sources to a public event, and just left them in the swap shop? Any idea idea of how hot they are, what isotope they are?

@jonty NVM, I found the info. Americium 241, and likely hotter than one might think. Thankfully, it's mostly alpha emitter, with fairly low gamma emission, so as long as it stays contained, it's safe.
@jonty I've heard of orphaned projects before, but this is ridiculous
@jonty train stations have an unattended bag policy, I suspect EMF is about to have an unattended orphaned source policy.
@gsuberland All sources under the age of 30 must be accompanied by an adult
@jonty The what nowโ€ฆ
@blake @jonty someone left a number of pieces of analysis equipment (or components thereof) containing radioactive sources at the swap shop. they likely didn't realise what was inside, until someone in the nuclear industry spotted them and raised the alarm. I think one is still unaccounted for.
@gsuberland @jonty Oh my, thatโ€™s kind of crazy! I hope the one that is missing gets found soon! That or itโ€™s a decay scavenger hunt (well hopefully it is sealed).
@gsuberland @blake @jonty we have recovered two but we don't know if there were any more. They are safe unless disassembled but they look quite old so we would like to dispose of them responsibly.
@gsuberland @blake @jonty Oooooof. Was there some contamination?
@Sylvhem @blake @jonty they've recovered two units and they're both intact

@gsuberland Pfew. Thanks the gods, because it would have bee a disaster otherwise.

@blake @jonty

@Sylvhem
here's the short thread by the person who raised the alarm. key info: device contains Americium 241, not dangerous if intact, but dangerous if disassembled.
https://meow.social/@tryst/112547040034336222
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@[email protected] Someone left at least two of these in the swap shop and they contain Americium 241. They're not immediately dangerous (depending on the condition of the sources inside), but are dangerous if disassembled. Edit: I have two of them that I've sealed in plastic bags and locked up in the back of my truck. Next week I'll investigate if we have a waste stream at work that I can put them into. I work in civil nuclear.

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@Sylvhem @gsuberland @blake @jonty it is currently unknown how many of them were beyond the 2 that were discovered and may still have been randomly picked up and still out there.
@jonty This feels like a 2026 scavenger hunt item.
@emfctf @jonty 2026 camp to be patrolled by drones carrying G-M tubes? :(
@jonty precise wording is essential
@jonty who gets the joy of filling out the paperwork for this one? It feels like there might be more than a little on somebodyโ€™s desk!
@jonty you know who else has unwanted junk? me โ€‹โ€‹
@Stellar @jonty please dispose of it responsibly
@jonty re "leave your unwanted junk":
Insert gender reassignment surgery joke here
@jonty Has Big Clive been shopping too much on AliExpress again? ๐Ÿคจ
@jonty at least the instructions will be more detailed and clear in 2026โ€ฆ
@andypiper @jonty Biological sources in 2026 then?
@andypiper @jonty The next worldwide pandemic started in a field near Ledbury in 2026...