This is a remarkable graph.
You might have heard that "EV sales are slumping", "people are starting to avoid EVs", etc.
That's not what's happening.
What's happening is "Tesla is cratering so hard that it's skewing the aggregate market data."
Or, put differently, "Tesla is failing harder than the entire rest of the market is succeeding, combined."
1. My garage is on the opposite side of my house from my electrical panel.
2. My electrical panel is full.
3. Installing a car charger would involve upgrading the feed from the street to support the extra 50A circuit.
4. If you found a qualified, licensed electrician to do that job for $700 including the cost of the charger, please give me his name, because he's the cheapest electrician I've ever heard of.
@jannem @CosmicTraveler @mhoye When I do road trips I do straight through trips. (half of my annual mileage is my summer beach trip, and I usually do it in a single drive with a 10 minute gas break.
530 miles in about 6 hours. Can't do that in an electric.
@ShredderFeeder @jannem @CosmicTraveler @mhoye
You would need maybe two charge stops. So it would take 40 minutes total, 30 additional minutes.
Definitely sounds like a dealbreaker to me.
@ShredderFeeder @jannem @CosmicTraveler @mhoye sure, if you’re driving a Leaf or something.
300 miles and 75% fast charge has become roughly standard.
You charge to 200 at 250 and 450 miles, and roll into the beach with 120 miles in the battery.
@mhoye @ShredderFeeder @CosmicTraveler @jannem
Or spend some extra time 100 miles out to charge 85% (255 miles range) and then roll in with 155 miles range.
@malwareminigun but a bigger battery will still charge quickly to 75% (my car has a bigger battery since it’s heavy).
Smaller batteries will cut down the charge stop time to under 20 minutes, no?
The takeaway is really: yes, it’s a little slower. But often that just doesn’t really matter; sometimes it does.
A scenic location with a view of Pikes Peak. Shared Charging 62.5 KW max. From Scott, the owner: The stations are designed to distribute 62.5 KW, max, and they share a 3-phase 125 KW circuit. I am the only DCFC station in CORE's service area that is not owned by CORE. My peak demand charge is based on my busiest 15 minutes no matter the time of day. If I let a full 125 KW flow for 15 minutes, then my power bill STARTS at ~$1900. Please understand that I do not make money off of these stations, They are a gift to you. They are not here to drive traffic to Margaret's Munchies. They are there for you fellow EV drivers. I wish I could make them faster and less expensive, but I am doing the best that I can.
@drdabbles @arigesher don't think NEVI is going to lower cost, just make available at all. Also unfortunately the places that really need every 50 miles like that (Wyoming, Dakotas, etc.) are not getting it anytime soon because the reason nothing is there is that nothing is there.
Like that stretch of i90 with billboards for > 50 miles in each direction of Wall going "we have a drug store"
On the plus side pretty much every ev does a lot more then 50 miles so this isn't the end of the world
@malwareminigun my poor R1T tops out at 200kW and “only” gets 70 mpge…
and yet, it’s lovely!
@arigesher *Rivian Drool*
R3 looks even more 80s than my car and I love it
@arigesher
It's kinda funny that my Tesla owning friend and I do one annual road trip to the same place every year, and weve never been able to take his car because there are no Tesla chargers on the route at all (and are very few chargers in general.)
Someday, maybe. Considering the state of Tesla and them laying off the supercharger staff, I'm not holding my breath
@arigesher
That said, if you have a multi car family like a lot of Americans, an EV is a fucking great 2nd car. Low maintenance cost, great resale value, super effective for short trips.
Tesla owning friend bought his pretty much exclusively because his work provides chargers as a perk, so his commutes and all the trips to the store and kid drop-offs and whatnot essentially have zero fuel cost.
@mav I don't commute. At all. I average about 2500 miles a year.
I also drive an old car instead of throwing mine away and upgrading every few years, which is also horrible for the environment.
@ShredderFeeder me too on both counts, we should be friends :)
My car is 16 years old this year, and cars are so expensive now that it's really quite a bit more practical to do maintenance and repair than it used to be; not only is throwing your car out and getting a new one terrible for the environment, but it's also not even effective from a sociopathic capitalist point of view.
@jannem @CosmicTraveler @mav @ShredderFeeder @mhoye chargers are being built out at a good clip. I’ve been able to do roadtrips in California in a Rivian R1T (so no Tesla chargers).
I guess it depends on where you live for now - a temporary problem.
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