RoscoMay 21, 2024
Eric A. Meyer
OpenAI stealing Scarlett’s voice for their new product after being told “no” is so perfectly on-brand, it’s almost painful. https://www.npr.org/2024/05/20/1252495087/openai-pulls-ai-voice-that-was-compared-to-scarlett-johansson-in-the-movie-her
May 20, 2024 at 11:15pmMetatext
Show threadKrautnapped™May 21, 2024

@Meyerweb This part of the article is kinda suss

“Just two days before the new ChatGPT was unveiled, Altman again reached out to Johansson's team, urging the actress to reconsider, she said. But before she and Altman could connect, the company publicly announced its new product.”

Show threadoctesianMay 21, 2024
@Meyerweb Its hilarious that the response from OpenAI was "The real voice actress goes to another school."
Show threadokanogen VerminEnemyFromWithinMay 21, 2024
@octesian @Meyerweb
They got a Canadian voice actress....
Show threadSueMay 21, 2024
@Meyerweb some guys have a problem with consent
Show threadwraptileMay 21, 2024

@Meyerweb I agree but "stealing" is very misleading here. She didn't do any work here nor is the voice that similar.

More like inspired without permission. Shitty move but you'll never find me cheering for ultra rich entertainer's copyrights in this lifetime.

Show threadjz.tuskMay 21, 2024

@wraptile @Meyerweb

*plink*

Show threadAmoshiasMay 21, 2024
@wraptile @Meyerweb I'll take the ultra rich entertainer over the megacorp every day of the week.
Show threadwraptileMay 21, 2024
@Amoshias @Meyerweb
Show threadÖlbaumMay 21, 2024
@wraptile Right, because there exists no recording of her voice that they could have had access to.
Show threadwraptileMay 21, 2024
@oscherler doesn't matter. That's not what stealing means.
Show threadÖlbaumMay 21, 2024
@wraptile Ah, you’re one of those “piracy isn’t stealing, because you still have your digital file” smartasses?
Show threadwraptileMay 21, 2024
@oscherler no just someone who knows more than 1 word
Show threadÖlbaumMay 22, 2024

@wraptile It’s not enough to know words, you need to know how they’re put together.

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/misappropriation-of-personal-image-and-possible-remedies-46776

Show threadwraptileMay 22, 2024
@oscherler your corporate law links are cute lmao have a good day 👋
Show threadSeth 🎙️May 21, 2024
@Meyerweb Arrogant fucks!
Show threadv̾i̾t̾r̾i̾o̾l̾i̾x̾May 21, 2024
@Meyerweb being to no and then doing it anyhow
Show threadgzMay 21, 2024
@Meyerweb
I've often wondered why celebs don't copyright their likeness, visual and audio. Is it not legit to do this?
Show threadAmoshiasMay 21, 2024
@godzero @Meyerweb it is not. There is a separate, common law intellectual property regime called the right of publicity which covers stuff like this.
Show threadgzMay 21, 2024
@Amoshias @Meyerweb
Thanks
Show threadskaphleMay 21, 2024
@godzero @Meyerweb It wasn't necessary before AI. You either had exactness which required contribution from the celebrity, or you had imitation by others, which was clearly just approximation and fell under the umbrella of art. I think people are still protected against AI via the current laws, but courts may disagree.
Show threadadamriceMay 21, 2024

@godzero @Meyerweb There is something called “publicity rights” or “personality rights,” and they vary from country to country or in the USA, from state to state.

Just to be precise, copyright wouldn’t apply here: copyright covers “the expression of an idea,” not a person’s physical characteristics.

Show threadNicole ParsonsMay 21, 2024

@Meyerweb

Tech bros genuinely believe they live in a world where women aren't permitted to say no.

Show threadBioalchemy13 🇺🇸🇺🇦May 21, 2024
@Meyerweb Apparently their AI didn’t disguise the source of the voice well enough.
Show threadJos noemt het gewoon melkMay 21, 2024

This is what 'opting out' means: them insisting it was just a coincidence that their stuff looks or sounds like yours.

@Meyerweb

Show threadBlueBirdBack ✨May 21, 2024
@Meyerweb OpenAI: "our Charter will guide us in acting in the best interests of humanity" https://openai.com/charter/ 😏
OpenAI Charter

Our Charter describes the principles we use to execute on OpenAI’s mission.

Show threadSumukha SMay 21, 2024
@Meyerweb They have disabled it now.
Show threadMirek Długosz 🕸️🐛May 21, 2024

@Meyerweb

did they seriously try "you don't know her, she goes to another school" as a defense? 🤣

Show threadGilgwathMay 21, 2024
@Meyerweb My theory: they already had it trained. Then figured it would probably be better to ask for permission. After they got told no, they just decided to fuck around and find out.
Show threadrockpickMay 21, 2024
@Meyerweb so OpenAI is now basically the tentacle witch from the little mermaid?
Show threadiamdtmsMay 21, 2024
@Meyerweb No rules remain. 2024
Show threadZakuMay 21, 2024
@Meyerweb I don’t think there’s anything wrong here. Since Johansson didn’t feel like doing it, OpenAI just found another actress with a similar voice to do it (if that’s what really happened). I mean, Johansson does not have rights over all voices that sound like hers.
Show threadZathrasMay 22, 2024
@zaku @Meyerweb Good example of sophistry there.