WilshireU.S. governors urge Turks and Caicos to release Americans as Florida woman becomes 5th tourist arrested for ammo in luggage
andrewtaFour rounds of ammo? Give them a slap on the wrist and send them home. If it was a box of ammo I’d feel differently. How you get ammo in the luggage is beyond me, but at 4 it was obviously an accident, they are obviously not trying to smuggle weapons in at that point.
Their country, their rules. One bullet can still kill someone. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
So can a fork. They didn’t travel with a gun apparently. Going to have to go shit down every Lowe’s that sells fertilizer, because you could rig it up and make it explode… Like a bullet without a gun.
What the fuck are you on about? Are people traveling with an entire Lowe’s warehouse in their fucking luggage?
theprogressivist Why the fuck would you bring ammo to begin with?
They traveled with their normal bag they go around with in regular life. Lesson: NEVER TRAVEL WITH THE BAG YOU CARRY AROUND DAILY because you will forget what’s in there.
That’s good advice, especially when traveling internationally.
Also when traveling to another country, always check the state department’s travel advisory for your destination(s).
travel.state.gov/…/TurksandCaicosIslands.html
Obviously this is the US state department, but it is still good info and I’d assume other countries have something similar.
borariYo the State Department page for Iceland is fucking fire. It warns about pickpockets by telling travelers to be cognizant of “getting jostled”, especially in the capital on weekends because everyone gets drunk then and the jostling risk is higher. What a delightful warning. I’m convinced the pickpockets in Iceland are all the fox version of Robin Hood in Iceland.
Some of the State Department pages go hard as fuck though. Take a look at the one for Russia and watch any sympathy for Britney Grinier or that fucking Army dude evaporate into thin air. Libya’s page is wild and so is Syria’s, which actually says “yeah fam, we shut that fucking embassy down. if you’re idiot ass needs help hit up the Czechs”. Burma (Myanmar) goes pretty hard too, in addition to the risk of kidnapping, wrongful detention, arbitrary enforcement of local laws, etc., there’s the “your prolly gonna step on some uxo and splatter your fucking intestines on your travel partner my dude. stop. don’t go here.”
Or just freaking empty it and only pack what you need. Its hardly difficult.
And yet, this keeps happening so it may actually be difficult.
Difficult. To check your travel bags for ammo.
How low do we set the bar before we blame the individuals?
I’ve never discovered ammunition loose in a bag or pocket. It’s been used or put away safely. Period. Why? Because duh.
Where’d I say that they weren’t responsible? I’m saying I can see how it could happen. It’s unclear why this bothers you.
Where’d anyone mention responsibility?
Checking your bag for shit inside it before you put more shit inside it is like the easiest thing to do. Some of the people mentioned in the article have children. If they’ve managed to not leave their kid in the car on a 100° day, or back up over their kids when leaving the house, they can manage to check their bags before the pack them.
Or don’t carry guns wherever you go like a fanatical vigilante?! You Americans created a problem that doesn’t exist anywhere else in the world.
They didn’t carry a gun with them. This is like getting arrested in Singapore because you didn’t realize you had gum on your purse from last year. Kinda dumb. If they chew the gum and make a mess with it … then it would make sense to charge them.
Still isn’t a valid excuse.
I agree that it’s not. But adjusting what you do can protect you from this sort of thing.
Not carrying ammo on an international flight should not require adjusting. It’s common fucking sense.
And yet how many stories like this have we seen this year? A state legislator was arrested over this as well.
Again, common sense. These people were dumb enough to bring ammo on an international flight. These are the consequences.
I’m going to guess that you dislike signs that warn of danger. Or warnings about keeping plastic bags away from babies. Those exist for exactly this reason. Warnings about being careful not to leave children in hot cars exist for this exact reason.
You keep ammo in your fucking purse?
I carry a pocket knife and a BIC lighter for utility needs. I have nearly forgotten to take out the pocket knife before leaving for the airport. I have also seen other stories like this, so I decided that my courier bag for travel is not the same one I use daily.
That’s fair - I’ve nearly lost good pocket knives in the same way… but it’s a long way from pocket knives to ammunition.
I don’t have or want a gun. I think they are stupid. I’m just saying that I get how it could happen.
When you go into someone’s house, you follow their rules.
Yes and when you punish someone you use a reasonable level of punishment.
Take the ammo and put them on the next flight home. And tell them next time the punishment will be more severe
If the situation occurred here in the states, the person would also be facing jail time. So your logic makes no sense.
That’s absolutely what we do when people carry cocaine into America. We take it, escort them to the border, and firmly tell them not to do it again.
I don’t know if you were aware how ridiculous your statement was and were arguing in bad faith but if not… please do realize that smuggling is generally heavily punished.
DevCatHow careless do you have to be to just have ammo lying around, unknown to you? Here’s a thought, T&C says they’ll release them if they lose their right to own a gun in the US?
If anything they’ll be celebrated by pro gun groups:
The National Rifle Association on Thursday urged the U.S. State Department to “use every means necessary to return U.S. citizens home to America.”
I’m guessing. These ppl are white
katy ✨nra are literally gonna get us into a war with the united kingdom aren’t they?
Flying SquidNRA: “Help us, government that we constantly talk about as an evil entity trying to take away our rights!”
If those governors will do the same for weed, deal.
I have no problem with that.
They do.
Fuck no. First rule of travelling is to check your fucking luggage. When you check your bags in you are asked if you packed it yourself and if everything in it is within the rules. It’s no one else’s fault two people are too fucking lazy or stupid to double check before checking their bags in.
I say, keep them an extra week, and let the US gov pay the fine for not noticing on departure.
How about the governors suggest that their residents don’t travel internationally with ammunition?
It is very unlikely these people were carrying ammo.
Then how did they find ammo and why have several admitted they brought the ammo and “forgot”?
Sounds like you’re full of shit.
Why is this not happenong at the same rate elsewhere?
People also admit to many things they never did while in custody.
Something fishy is happening here.
or americans just are arrogant and think they’re untouchable. see fay, michael and singapore.
see fay, michael and singapore.
I almost forgot that asshole. No one outside the US thought the intervention was warranted. Case in point: the Swiss vandal in 2010
People also admit to many things they never did while in custody.
Do people? Is that the thing?
Okay. Um, while in custody I never … hopped on one leg.
But why is admitting to things we’ve never done in custody a thing?
I do not ageee with the poster you respond to, but false confessions are a serious problem. Often (in the US) they arise from hours long interrogations without a lawyer, in which police are allowed to lie about the evidence they have. This leads to situations where a suspect feels like they are done for even if they didn’t commit a crime. When a plea deal is then put in front of them which they are told would be much preferable to getting sentenced without it, they sign and admit to a crime they never committed. It shouldn’t happen but is a thing that unfortunately does occur.
That said, I doubt it being the case here.
Yeah, the Brits (since it is a British territory) have been trying to frame every single American to put them in jail since the rebellion!
This happens in other Caribbean countries too. If you were to fly to Bermuda or Grenada you’d get in trouble for carrying this stuff.
Per the article ‘Four of the detained Americans have admitted they brought the ammunition — but by mistake.’
mojofrododojonypost.com/…/bryan-hagerich-dad-facing-turks-and-…
they admit to it.
Ryan Watson, 40, of Oklahoma, a father of two who was most recently arrested for unknowingly having ammo in his bag on April 12, remains on the island. Both men previously told Fox News Digital that they had the ammo in their bags from prior hunting trips.
Michael Lee Evans, 72, pleaded guilty to having ammunition in his bag on April 24, according to local news outlet the Turks & Caicos Sun. His sentencing hearing is scheduled for June 18.
why are you fabricating bullshit?
Dad facing prison time for Turks and Caicos ammo charge says law has 'unintended consequences'
Bryan Hagerich, a Pennsylvania father of two facing a minimum 12-year prison sentence in Turks and Caicos after airport security found ammunition in his luggage in February, says the island law mea…
I’m not fabricating anything. I’m skeptical that a bunch of irresponsible gun nuts keep getting caught in a nation no irresponsible gun nut has ever heard of, while somehow avoiding capture everywhere else.
Its also strange to me that people on a site all about ACAB when it comes to their own nations are not throwing that skepticism to a nation they also have likely never heard of.
You stated: It is very unlikely these people were carrying ammo.
they admitted to carrying the ammo.
look buddy just because you’re not familiar with the turks doesn’t mean it’s not real. your lack of experience and geography knowledge doesn’t poof it out of existence.
jalopnik.com/a-gun-is-stolen-from-a-car-every-9-m… you really think the gun nuts put that much thought into storage and care for their firearms and associated material huh?
what a buffoon.
I like that I reference the fact that irresponsible gun owners suddenly flocking end masse to a place they wouldn’t have hears of turns into you accusing me of having never hears of that place.
Like… What? Okay.
I get it, you like to argue on the internet and being mr. Smarty pants is super important to you. But at least make sense.
I like that I reference the fact that irresponsible gun owners suddenly flocking end masse to a place they wouldn’t have hears of turns into you accusing me of having never hears of that place.
en masse.
not end.
why the fuck would people flock to a place they’d never heard of? do you stop to read the shit you’re writing?
I don’t like to argue on the internet, I like to point out how stupid, inane, and poorly constructed your arguments are. I’m sorry, but I don’t have the time or crayons to draw you a picture.
I think you should be taking your anger out on your mother, not randos on the internet, or therapy.
Or go back to reddit. Have a good night.
I think you should be taking your anger out on your mother,
yikes. you got issues man.
Don’t feed the troll (or idiot)
yeah blocked after that, no good arguments.
As a bystander, thanks for that reminder (that it’s very easy to block people on Lemmy).